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re: Did Obama Unwittingly Kill the Democrat Party?

Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:54 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:54 am to
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You have 25 posts, if you don’t like it you are free to stop coming to the board.




Someone brings up facts to counter a weak OP and bad question

YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE SIR
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30015 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:57 am to
Lying in this context is extremely subjective. It’s mostly all an opinion piece.

I reject your motion counselor
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:58 am to
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YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE SIR


likewise. I think you'll find most of us agree.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:58 am to
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It's arguable that Obama's re-election was the death of the dem party because it entrenched the "majority minority" theme as the new left wing electorate.

And by majority minority it's basically "everyone vs white males".


You can see how they've tried to continue that "majority minority" plan through the Hillary Clinton and Biden eras and it's just fell flat.

It's on it's last legs and won't survive without a figure like Obama and even Obama isn't as shiny as he once was.


Terrific post. Obama initially succeeded with the American people because 1) He was an unknown, 2) He was somewhat unique, 3) the corporate media worshipped him, and 4) he could read a speech off of a teleprompter like nobody's business.

But smoke-and-mirror hyperbole tends to fade over time, and even the most easily-manipulated of people start to look at the reality of the situation.. The false "mystique" of Obama has faded, and one consequence of the damage he wrought is that the Democrat Party is only slightly better off in 2025 than Obama's chef.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55452 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:59 am to
It was Bill Clinton, not Obama. Before Clinton dems were against free trade to protect union jobs.
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4398 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:59 am to
No, He will be the first to be Gay/ 1/2 Black President in history. Those are some high marks for Democrats.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476595 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:59 am to
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Lying in this context is extremely subjective. It’s mostly all an opinion piece.

I reject your motion counselor


Well, for starters, I have not "defended" or "apologized" for either Obama or the DEMs.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:00 am to
good point. I should have included that in my response. Obama truly was the OG race-politics grifter.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:00 am to
There are no five people who have done more damage to the Republic.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30015 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:01 am to
Why are you defending yourself against lying? No one has accused you of doing so. Even though you often pull a soft hank and obfuscate.

This is about you accusing KCT of lying when he posted an opinion
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
4879 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:01 am to
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The reality is that some people were traumatized by the election of a black Democrat.


Always accusing racism… progressives in a nutshell
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4669 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:02 am to
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traumatized by the election of a black Democrat.
Clinton was the first black president.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39643 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:02 am to
Democratic Party is just a moniker for a group of ideologically based individuals. That Group is likely over 40% of the population, and they are far from being @killed”. Their agenda was just exposed as their power to impose it increased. Now they are “out of the closet” and the people can make an educated choice.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23754 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:03 am to
Obama is a Marxist intent on "change", his idea of change requires destroying everything that made America great. His "change" is what drove the Dem party into what we see today.
The Dem party was/is a useful tool.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:03 am to
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Someone brings up facts to counter a weak OP and bad question YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE SIR


A counter argument is someone complaining? I offered a polite solution instead of just tagging their post count. Why would someone waste more time in a place they already dislike in 25 posts? We put up with you and other refards daily
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4669 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:04 am to
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MANY voted for him because all they saw was the black part of him.
And when they voted for him because they saw the black part in him, they voted against the other guy because they saw the white in him. Seems to be the very definition of racism.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
30015 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:05 am to
It’s also true that almost no new poster here with low post counts is of any quality whatsoever. There are exceptions, it’s sad though. Our ranks aren’t growing to a satisfactory level of intellectual heft
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23916 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:07 am to
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The Obama obsession many of y'all have is fascinating behavior.


Here is an OP trying to have a discussion about how the democrat party has changed since Obama became the leader and you are trying to shut down the conversation. You try to play the conservative card but you prove time and again you are nothing but a leftist groomer. This should have been an issue for you to demonstrate your “conservative views” but instead you chose to deflect. You are nothing but leftist scum
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55452 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:08 am to
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The Democratic Party became the Republican Party... Trump's policies mirror those of the Democrats in the 1980s and early 1990s.

No, but there has been cross pollination. To refute your statement, the Republicans are still the party of tax cuts, the second amendment and pro life.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476595 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:09 am to
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Here is an OP trying to have a discussion about how the democrat party has changed since Obama became the leader

That's not what OP was trying to have.

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and you are trying to shut down the conversation. Y

No. In fact, I gave a detailed response without the ODS

Why lie?

What do you get out of lying about objective facts? Why not engage in honesty to try to attempt to make points?

quote:

You try to play the conservative card but you prove time and again you are nothing but a leftist groomer.

And now you double down on the lies by including ad homs

quote:

This should have been an issue for you to demonstrate your “conservative views” but instead you chose to deflect.

I made fun of a bad OP.

I did give an accurate assessment of what led the DEM party so astray.

Funny enough, I did it without having to resort to lying like some other people use as a crutch

quote:

You are nothing but leftist scum

You don't read so good.
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