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re: DeSantis, what GOP missed in 'huge underperformance' for election. Take on "big interest".

Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53464 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:33 pm to
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I suggest you do like I do, and vote for the best available.


And I suggest you do what I did and will continue to do. Not vote for people who are bent on giving away to globalists.

You are their favorite person to read about. They just proved to you in 2022 that they will do what ever it takes to put you in your place and vote how they tell you.

I'm not speaking of the dems either. I'm talking GOPe!


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There aren’t any perfect candidates out there.


True. But there are America First candidates. I'm not voting for a man or woman who surrounds themselves with globalists who are very vocal about why they are back the person they are.

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I will not pout and stay home.


It isn't about pouting. It's about sending a message that their shite isn't what we accept! It's called taking a stand against candidates that demand we accept things like TPP and globalism.


If you don't understand the difference in that, sorry. I will not give my vote to that idea!
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:37 pm to
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True. But there are America First candidates. I'm not voting for a man or woman who surrounds themselves with globalists who are very vocal about why they are back the person they are.



I will never understand why Republican voters don't seem to mind our tax money being given to foreign countries instead of being spent here.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57219 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:37 pm to
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So the key to winning is taking on "big interest". Okay, thanks for the specifics.
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We know he will not bow to Covidians like Trump did.
Any reasonable read on Trumps performance... does not include a lot of successful dismantling of "big interest". The DOJ and FBI are just as corrupt (if not more) than when he was elected. The Media is more openly an arm of the democrat apparatus. Trump got virtually nothing done legislatively.

Trump's rhetoric may be great. But his performance has been less than stellar. I know many don't want to hear that. But if you're not questioning Trump's past performance and future capabilities to persuade people to align to his rhetoric... you're being obtuse or in a cult.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57219 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:39 pm to
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Mittens unfortunately might be the guy. He can win in purple states. He can sent conservative judges to bench.
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:57 pm
How much did you drink at lunch?
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8374 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:39 pm to
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We know he will not bow to Covidians like Trump did


You need to read Scott Atlas’ book, he describes why trump listened to them so much. He was bound to listen to “experts” or Trump could be found incompetent for not listening to them, even if the experts were wrong.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:43 pm to
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As SirWinston would say, "that's a lofty gif mate".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:45 pm to
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GumboPot


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Watching you and people like you go after DeSantis had been sad, but it's at least solified my belief that he's our best chance to move on from your cult.





I posted a pro-DeSantis article.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146700 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:47 pm to


You are now bantering with Displaced mother freaking Buckeye, dude.

Here's a tip: Tell King with the red carpet Ron, to stop making dumbass Karl Rove "On the 8th day God made Ron, & Top Guv" cringe videos.

Every time DeSantis gets up and says what Turtle & Jeb! tells him to...

Here is another tip my fren...
Ron is going to make news...

And the media is chewing him up and already spit him out; but you are buying the fantasy that Ron is adorned by EVERYONE and will carry us away like Richard Gere.

You know better than most Ron needs to buy a few vowels and a huge cup of authenticity.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34125 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:47 pm to
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We know he will not bow to Covidians like Trump did.


Easy amigo. He shut down interstate travel into Florida.

Did he pivot earlier than most, yes.

However, I won’t pretend that his arse didn’t kowtow to the Covidian’s.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:50 pm to
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Remember the vaccine was not available until Trump was out of office.



Are you sure about that?????



Approved for EUA in December of 2020. Available to first patients January of 2021. Trump out of office on January 20, 2021.


Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:50 pm to
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Trump's rhetoric may be great. But his performance has been less than stellar. I know many don't want to hear that. But if you're not questioning Trump's past performance and future capabilities to persuade people to align to his rhetoric... you're being obtuse or in a cult.

I vote cult. You can't obsess about this shite like some of these guys do and be obtuse unless you're legit retarded, and a lot of these guys are clearly fairly bright. They just believe like Adam Schiff believes, but on the opposite side of the Trump spectrum.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53464 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:53 pm to
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I will never understand why Republican voters don't seem to mind our tax money being given to foreign countries instead of being spent here.


Exactly
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:54 pm to
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And I suggest you do what I did and will continue to do. Not vote for people who are bent on giving away to globalists. You are their favorite person to read about. They just proved to you in 2022 that they will do what ever it takes to put you in your place and vote how they tell you. I'm not speaking of the dems either. I'm talking GOPe!


And you will keep on posting and losing.

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It isn't about pouting. It's about sending a message that their shite isn't what we accept! It's called taking a stand against candidates that demand we accept things like TPP and globalism.


And like I said you will keep posting and losing.

You are a voice crying in the wilderness. Stay home, that’s gonna make a huge difference.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:54 pm to
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I would bet that there are more DeSantis voters that would vote for Trump if he was the nominee than there are Trump voters that would vote for DeSantis. And I don't mean raising your hand or clicking an up or down arrow - I mean actually casting that vote.



I agree. And most of those Trump voters that might be hesitant to vote for Ron are in the Midwest. It's a real issue Ron will have to overcome. It's a real issue that establishment Republicans will have to overcome. Establishment Republicans just do not attract white blue collar workers that much. They can make it up with the female suburban votes but the question is, by how much?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:55 pm to
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I will never understand why Republican voters don't seem to mind our tax money being given to foreign countries instead of being spent here. Exactly


Sometimes foreign countries use my tax dollars better than my governments do.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118760 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:57 pm to
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Trump's rhetoric may be great. But his performance has been less than stellar.


I see just the opposite. His rhetoric is lacking, especially in terms of explaining detail, it is divisive at times, entertaining a lot of the time but his performance as president was very good.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:59 pm to
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Easy amigo. He shut down interstate travel into Florida.


He was the Governor of Florida and put "Floridians First". He basically treated states with high infection rates the same as Trump treated immigrants from states that sponsor terrorism. Ask Florida school teachers and cruise ship passengers if he kowtowed to the Covidians.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53464 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:59 pm to
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And you will keep on posting and losing.



except for we won on 2016! We have replace a lot of congressional members too!

Try again.


We also won on 2020. Like it or not.



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You are a voice crying in the wilderness. Stay home, that’s gonna make a huge difference.



LOL! OK!


Try winning without us.


Mitch started a war in 2020 and continued it in 2022 and we all know it.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:59 pm to
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I see just the opposite. His rhetoric is lacking, especially in terms of explaining detail, it is divisive at times, entertaining a lot of the time but his performance as president was very good.


Yes and he had a lot of issues in putting an effective team together to run things.

His rhetoric along with that hurt him.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:03 pm to


big pharma is a big interest. is he for or against the recent democrats bill which over the coming two years will reduce the costs to Medicare recipients by Medicare negotiations of bulk prices for the 20 most prescribed medicines. 10 medicines in 2023. 10 additional in 24.
the cap on Medicare drug cost is now $2500 a year. is he for or against?
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