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re: DeSantis: Satan has no place in our society and should not be recognized as a "religion"
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:26 am to the808bass
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:26 am to the808bass
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The culture wars is about the country surviving. We can win elections. But if we lose the culture war, we’ve been elected over nothing of value.
As Andrew Breitbart said: “politics is downstream from culture”
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Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:26 am to Earnest_P
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How can it meaningfully protect religious rights if it doesn’t discriminate as to what constitutes a religion?
This
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:28 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Remove all religious displays and problem solved.
That has worked out well for removing prayer from schools.
Christian Americans need to stop pussyfooting around and just stomp all this shite out. Most of us grew up during a time that Christianity was the official/unofficial moral compass of this nation. Then we started letting people from other places come in and take advantage of us and manipulate our way of life to knock our way of life down.
Frick'em. Respecting our Christian foundation is more American than apple pie. Nothing else is.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 11:30 am
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:44 am to Earnest_P
quote:Exactly.
How can it meaningfully protect religious rights if it doesn’t discriminate as to what constitutes a religion?
The Constitution provides legal protections for religious beliefs and practices so that the government cannot overstep its bounds, but in order for that to happen, we need to know what is and is not a religion.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:45 am to PorkSammich
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Trump recently: quote:I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants,” the former president vowed. “If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you don’t like our religion (which a lot of them don’t), if you sympathize with jihadists, then we don’t want you in our country and you are not getting in.”
This seems like the protection of religion to me.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:47 am to rmnldr
Ah, the same rationale Muslims don't allow Christianity in their society.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:49 am to rmnldr
Is Satanism really something we need to worry about these days?
This is what I'm talking about with Ron... He's talking about this bullshite like it's some big deal. So dumb.
This is what I'm talking about with Ron... He's talking about this bullshite like it's some big deal. So dumb.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:54 am to rmnldr
This I agree with . Good one Ron .
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:01 pm to FooManChoo
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we need to know what is and is not a religion.
This is not possible.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:01 pm to Giantkiller
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Is Satanism really something we need to worry about these days?
If you’re a Christian, yeah
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:02 pm to NotPrepared
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They are using the government to blaspheme Christ. Stop being weak
You think blaspheming Christ should be illegal?
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:14 pm to rmnldr
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If you’re a Christian, yeah
I'm a Christian. I don't think Satanism is on some huge upswing.
It's a funny thing with the GOPe. They act like there's this massive moral decay and they run with the abortion thing and drug legalization and all this social bullshite. Meanwhile they're fleecing people silly. It's a smokescreen and people have fallen for it since Reagan.
Luckily, their electorate is starting to wake up.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:16 pm to rmnldr
Baws tried to warn us years ago...
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:17 pm to themunch
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This seems to be the theme of your post. Care to enlighten us?
Sorry, I thought it was common knowledge that he used the power of the state to punish Disney for speaking out against what they called his "Don't Say Gay" bill. Textbook violation of the 1st amendment—government reprisal for unpopular speech and/or speech that criticized the government. The other example I am aware of is in regard to how he went about limiting children at drag shows. I can give details on that if you would like, but it's probably not going to be today...you can Google it.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:20 pm to TS1926
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Who is your first choice?
Ted Cruz.
But he's not running this time.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:21 pm to Giantkiller
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I'm a Christian. I don't think Satanism is on some huge upswing.
Of course it is. It always will be. We're only free from Satanism and the worship of evil through Christ alone.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 12:31 pm to aggressor
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He's not ignoring the Constitution though. He's just moving us back to the interpretation before the Warren Court just made the Constitution to mean a "living document".
So how do you interpret the 1st amendment, then?
I publish an article critical of your administration and all of a sudden I get audited by the IRS, OSHA pays a visit to talk to all my employees to try to dig up something to make an issue of, and the Environmental Protection Agency just happens to discover that my building is in violation of an obscure environmental law that's going to end up costing me $300,000 in fines and reconstruction.
Is that government retribution for critical speech or not?
And btw, people who are up in arms about Trump's prosecutions surely understand that he is legitimately guilty of at least some of the 91 things he's been charged with, aren't y'all?
It's still malicious prosecution and unequal protection under the law because the stuff he's being charged with could doubtless stick to almost anyone else they applied it to under similar circumstances, but they never apply it to anyone else and are only applying it to him to punish him and to try to prevent him from becoming POTUS again.
But people who claimed that DeSantis wasn't guilty of government reprisal against Disney b/c it was legal for the state to rescind those tax breaks can't have it both ways. It's legal to prosecute Trump, too, and at least some of those charges are legitimate.
In both cases the government is acting punitively and maliciously, though.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:04 pm to wackatimesthree
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Ted Cruz.
I like Ted Cruz but he has a snowball's chance of ever winning a general election.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:13 pm to TS1926
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I like Ted Cruz but he has a snowball's chance of ever winning a general election.
I like to have hope.
Maybe next time.
It depends on whether the party goes back to being the only adult in the room or continues with the populist idiocy personified by Trump and Ramaswamey.
I would for sure vote for DeSantis, don't get me wrong, and I would have confidence that he would be good, if not perfect IME. I'll vote for Trump. I'll vote for pretty much anyone who is the least bit right of what we've got now. I'd vote for Haley, Christie, I wouldn't want to but I would vote for Ramaswamey over letting Biden have another term. That's the only one I think I might possibly regret.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 1:19 pm to wackatimesthree
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It depends on whether the party goes back to being the only adult in the room or continues with the populist idiocy personified by Trump and Ramaswamey.
Unfortunately it's not all about the party but who can win the general. Repubs already start in the hole because the corporate media is against them no matter who it is and how stupid and idiotic the Democrat challenger might be.
This is very effective with the average voter, including the so-called "educated" voter, who believes the MSM and simply votes the popular choice.
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