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DeSantis invites all the ships stranded off of California to Florida
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:54 pm
Granted I think he’s more talking shite here since shipments from China that’s a long fricking way to go and probably don’t have the fuel to get there.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 12:56 pm
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:55 pm to OMLandshark
This is how you lead
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:56 pm to OMLandshark
That's a long voyage from California to Florida.
If Mexico was smart, they would say, "dock here" and export everything to the US at a premium.
If Mexico was smart, they would say, "dock here" and export everything to the US at a premium.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:56 pm to OMLandshark
Can those ships fit through the panama canal?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:57 pm to OMLandshark
Assuming most of those ships are too big for the Panama Canal, that's a long trip around South America. Still, I guess it beats being anchored off the west coast.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:58 pm to OMLandshark
What is more expensive at this point-
1. Waiting off Cali until they are good and ready to unload you
2. Going through the Panama Canal and unloading in Florida, Gulfport, New Orleans, etc
Time is money and every second these ships stay at sea with the current cargo not being unloaded is lost time and money that could be used bringing more cargo back.
1. Waiting off Cali until they are good and ready to unload you
2. Going through the Panama Canal and unloading in Florida, Gulfport, New Orleans, etc
Time is money and every second these ships stay at sea with the current cargo not being unloaded is lost time and money that could be used bringing more cargo back.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:59 pm to Cosmo
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Can those ships fit through the panama canal?
Doubtful.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:00 pm to teke184
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1. Waiting off Cali until they are good and ready to unload you
This. Ships and crew are doing frick all sitting there. They're not generating revenue.
Imagine you sold candy and chips and had dozens of vending machines sitting in your warehouse and people wanting to buy your products. Lots of lost revenue.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:00 pm to OMLandshark
Wait for it. It's coming....
"I'm glad Mr. DeSantis has such extensive expertise in maritime logistics."
...Jen Psaki
"I'm glad Mr. DeSantis has such extensive expertise in maritime logistics."
...Jen Psaki
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:01 pm to Landmass
I'd love to see Florida become the central import hub but it's not practical in terms of logistics. Ships coming from China would either have to go around the horn of Africa, or traverse the Panama Canal which seems, more expensive if nothing else.
Now if they could siphon off enough ships to make the labor unions in California hurt. . . and hurt a lot, that would be a win.
Now if they could siphon off enough ships to make the labor unions in California hurt. . . and hurt a lot, that would be a win.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:02 pm to OMLandshark
More trolling than serious, but what ever. There are many west coast ports available, the ships don’t need to unload only at one CA port.
Unless they’re doing this on purpose.
Unless they’re doing this on purpose.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:04 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Unless they’re doing this on purpose.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:04 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
If the problem is the state of California AND the mayor of LA, that is a bit of a pickle.
Newsom has influence over every port in the state.
LA mayor has influence over San Pedro, Long Beach, and every other port in LA metro.
And I doubt that San Fran or Oakland is a better option considering who runs those areas.
Newsom has influence over every port in the state.
LA mayor has influence over San Pedro, Long Beach, and every other port in LA metro.
And I doubt that San Fran or Oakland is a better option considering who runs those areas.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:05 pm to OMLandshark
Most of the container ships are too big to use the Panama Canal... However, if I were a shipping company, I would be looking for a way to get my product unloaded where ever possible, especially in the future...
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:07 pm to OMLandshark
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Granted I think he’s more talking shite here since shipments from China that’s a long fricking way to go and probably don’t have the fuel to get there.
It's not that much longer. Panama Canal.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:07 pm to OMLandshark
Words can not express how happy that message makes me. Nothing will change with these shipments, but who knows when they start booking the next one. Anything that cripples California is fine by me
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:07 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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There are many west coast ports available, the ships don’t need to unload only at one CA port.
Unless they’re doing this on purpose.
They are doing this on purpose. In Seattle- Tacoma, the Tacoma port is not unloading hardly any containers off ships. Trucks are just sitting there waiting to load up, with nothing to load, because the crains aren’t doing anything.
LINK
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:09 pm to GumboPot
you guys know there are ships off new yorks coast as well?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:10 pm to G4LSU
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you guys know there are ships off new yorks coast as well?
Yeah but if they travel southeast, where will they end up?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 1:15 pm to Cosmo
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Can those ships fit through the panama canal?
Yep! https://micanaldepanama.com/expansion/
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After an intensive construction program (2009-2016), the Cocoli and Agua Clara Locks added a third lane to the Panama Canal for the transit of Neopanamax vessels.
Since its inauguration on June 26, 2016, the Expanded Canal not only exceeded traffic expectations, but also reaffirmed its environmental leadership in the maritime industry, prioritizing water savings and contributing to the reduction of CO2, being a shorter route and offering greater cargo capacity to its customers.
Containerships represent more than half of the traffic through the Expanded Canal, followed by liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) carriers and liquefied natural gas (LNG) carriers. Other segments such as bulk carriers, tankers, car carriers and passenger vessels have also transited the Neopanamax Locks.
LNG ships began using the waterway for the first time after the opening of the Expanded Canal. Since then, this segment has experienced steady growth.More than 90 percent of the LNG world's fleet can now transit the Panama Canal, which opened the doors to a new market and allows LNG producers in the United States to send natural gas to Asia at competitive prices.
LPG vessel traffic has grown exponentially since the Expanded Canal's opening and has become the second largest segment of traffic through the Neopanamax Locks.
The Expanded Canal offers greater connectivity to world maritime trade.
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