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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:05 am to TigerIn2023
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:05 am to TigerIn2023
No. Because it’s patently obvious that many healthy (non-drugged) people would have survived what Floyd went through.
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:11 am to the808bass
quote:
No. Because it’s patently obvious that many healthy (non-drugged) people would have survived what Floyd went through.
Exactly, that's why that technique was taught to Chauvin. Because it's not dangerous unless you're OD'ing.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:13 am to the808bass
ME: *cites testimony given under oath by medical experts*
Random social media user: “It’s patently obvious that this pulmonologist, critical care specialist, physiologist, and recognized expert in respiratory failure is wrong.” (offers no citations, follow-up, or reasons why)
ME: “Ok.”
Random social media user: “It’s patently obvious that this pulmonologist, critical care specialist, physiologist, and recognized expert in respiratory failure is wrong.” (offers no citations, follow-up, or reasons why)
ME: “Ok.”
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:14 am to Azkiger
Or fat with pre-existing cardiac conditions and resisting arrest.
But being high is the biggest factor in restraint asphyxiation.
But being high is the biggest factor in restraint asphyxiation.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:14 am to Hetfield
quote:Also compare those crying over the convict that got killed a week before his scheduled release and them desperately clinging to the idea that the state must protect convicts regardless all else. See how many hypocrites you can find (easy cheat: if lib then also hypocrite).
Take notes on who all celebrates this on your social media feeds. Remember them and don't forget...........
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:15 am to TigerIn2023
quote:No. But judging from your confusion, it's understandable how even a well-intentioned jury could get things as wrong as they did.
That bit kind of screws your postulate.
quote:Again, a medically stupid statement. Anyone who was exposed to multiple doses of fentanyl over a few days would have norfentanyl in their system. That fact has zip to do with an acute OD
so was norfentanyl, which is metabolized fentanyl. Overdose victims rarely have norfentanyl in their blood
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:15 am to TigerIn2023
quote:
TigerIn2023
Any reason why you aren't quoting others when pretending to quote others?
Me: "Hey guys, enjoy last night's game?"
TigerIn2023: "I like sucking lots of dick."
Me: "ok..."
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:16 am to TigerIn2023
quote:
It’s patently obvious that this pulmonologist, critical care specialist, physiologist, and recognized expert in respiratory failure is wrong.” (offers no citations, follow-up, or reasons why)
I have offered citations.
There’s zero physical evidence associated with asphyxiation. I need to you read that carefully. What you’re going to think is “there’s not a lot of evidence.” What I meant was “there’s zero physical evidence associated with asphyxiation.”
You probably also believe the Central Park 5 were framed and that masks work in protecting Covid.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:22 am to Azkiger
quote:
No, he's saying if you swallow your week stash during an arrest to avoid being caught
There's zero evidence of this, so you can't state it as a fact to make a point. That's a straw man argument, if there ever was one.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:26 am to TigerIn2023
quote:
ME: *cites testimony given under oath by medical experts*
quote:
The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl is about 2 milligrams(mg). Depending on where the fentanyl comes from (i.e. illicit or prescription), the lethal dose may be lower.
quote:
According to another memo on June 1, Dr. Baker told investigators that while Floyd had a high amount of fentanyl in his system
quote:
Heart disease, fentanyl contributed to George Floyd’s death
Looks like you can pretend whatever you choose.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:26 am to Azkiger
ME: “You offered nothing to back up your statement contradicting a medical expert’s opinion.”
Random social media user: “Yeah well you suck dick.” (offers no citations, follow-up, or reasons they believe this)
ME: “Ok.”
Random social media user: “Yeah well you suck dick.” (offers no citations, follow-up, or reasons they believe this)
ME: “Ok.”
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:28 am to TigerIn2023
When this is the guy overseeing “justice,” there is an issue imho…
I stated repeatedly at the time that Chauvin should have been charged with 3rd degree (which doesn’t invoke “intent” iirc). Didn’t his black police trainer, under the auspices of his black police chief, put forth the training that was used that day? I initially said that he was guilty of 3rd degree for not providing medical treatment. Now, it would seem as though EMS went to the wrong location. Between the required training, and the Geographically challenged EMS response would seem to exonerate him to a large degree…no?
Lastly, I also predicted that his appeal would eventually come through prior to the 2024 election…sparking “protests” nationwide.
Given the recent USSC ruling, that now seems a dead end.
Your goose-stepping presence here tells me that I’m closer to the truth than not. There is a reason the share blue crew is posting here again.
Continue with your deflections, even though they are irrelevant to me.
At least then you are earning your $$$.
I stated repeatedly at the time that Chauvin should have been charged with 3rd degree (which doesn’t invoke “intent” iirc). Didn’t his black police trainer, under the auspices of his black police chief, put forth the training that was used that day? I initially said that he was guilty of 3rd degree for not providing medical treatment. Now, it would seem as though EMS went to the wrong location. Between the required training, and the Geographically challenged EMS response would seem to exonerate him to a large degree…no?
Lastly, I also predicted that his appeal would eventually come through prior to the 2024 election…sparking “protests” nationwide.
Given the recent USSC ruling, that now seems a dead end.
Your goose-stepping presence here tells me that I’m closer to the truth than not. There is a reason the share blue crew is posting here again.
Continue with your deflections, even though they are irrelevant to me.
At least then you are earning your $$$.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:28 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:28 am to gymnopedies13
quote:
There's zero evidence of this
There is plenty of evidence he had a lethal dose of fentanyl and also had heard issues.
Without this shite in his system, hes alive today.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:29 am to the808bass
quote:
There’s zero physical evidence associated with asphyxiation.
The Hennepin County medical examiner's office ruled Floyd's death was a homicide caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest" complicated by "restraint, and neck compression" while he was being subdued by police.
Medical Examiner Andrew Baker testified that the way officers held Floyd down and compressed his neck while restraining him "was just more than Mr. Floyd could take," given the condition of his heart.
Similarly, an independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd's family ruled "asphyxiation from sustained pressure was the cause" of Floyd's death.
Dr. Martin Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care specialist of Loyola University Medical Center, also testified during Chauvin's trial that Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck. He added, “A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died."
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:31 am to TigerIn2023
quote:
The Hennepin County medical examiner's office ruled Floyd's death was a homicide caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest" complicated by "restraint, and neck compression" while he was being subdued by police. Medical Examiner Andrew Baker testified that the way officers held Floyd down and compressed his neck while restraining him "was just more than Mr. Floyd could take," given the condition of his heart.
You just supported Roger’s post.
quote:
Heart disease, fentanyl contributed to George Floyd’s death
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:33 am to TigerIn2023
quote:
"cardiopulmonary arrest" complicated
Yes, it was most likely a contributing factor, but his drugs and heart condition killed him.
21 years in prison. You can fricking commit first degree and serve less time.
How many years should Biden get for Droning that Family in Afghanistan?
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:34 am to TigerIn2023
You struggle with what “evidence” is. You’re citing opinions without citing underlying evidence.
There’s zero physical evidence he died from asphyxiation.
There’s three important words there.
Zero
physical
And
Evidence
There’s zero physical evidence he died from asphyxiation.
There’s three important words there.
Zero
physical
And
Evidence
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:35 am to TigerIn2023
quote:Nah, no "whoops". I'm aware of the guy's statements.
WHOOPS!
His assertion that a healthy person would have died just as Floyd did is an example of either abject speculative stupidity, or a lie in search of a directed outcome.
All one need do is highlight the 100's of cases where perps were corralled and subdued with the identical technique. That is why cops use it. That is what renders your dude's statement nonsensical.
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Dr. Peter T. Lin Forensic Pathologist for the Mayo Clinic who co-authored a study on the reliability of postmortem fentanyl levels when determining the cause of death:
The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl is about 2 milligrams(mg). Depending on where the fentanyl comes from (i.e. illicit or prescription), the lethal dose may be lower.
“To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone based only on a drug concentration of 11 ng/ml, and to ignore the neck compression entirely, would stretch the bounds of credulity.”
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:39 am to the808bass
quote:
You struggle with what “evidence” is. You’re citing opinions without citing underlying evidence. There’s zero physical evidence he died from asphyxiation. There’s three important words there. Zero physical And Asphyxiation
It’s all an appeal to authority. He’s citing people who gained immense financial advantage and/or professional esteem to provide an opinion. And his “slam dunk” evidence is that the jury found him guilty.
And hes incapable of understanding why his logic is faulty. 100% a product of our modern indoctrinational system which instructs on what to think instead of how to think.
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