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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison

Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:39 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299406 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:39 am to
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“To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone


You must be illiterate. Read what I typed again.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44237 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:40 am to
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Similarly, an independent autopsy commissioned by Floyd's family ruled "asphyxiation from sustained pressure was the cause" of Floyd's death. Dr. Martin Tobin, a pulmonologist and critical care specialist of Loyola University Medical Center, also testified during Chauvin's trial that Floyd died of a lack of oxygen from being pinned to the pavement with a knee on his neck. He added, “A healthy person subjected to what Mr. Floyd was subjected to would have died."


So the person commissioned to produce a desired result did what they were paid to do?

Okay.

I mean, they may be legit, they may not be. But they were paid by the family.

Either way, didn’t a black guy train him to do that as per the black police chief’s in house training regimen?

Or am I remembering that aspect incorrectly?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299406 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:41 am to
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The Hennepin County medical examiner's office ruled Floyd's death was a homicide caused by "cardiopulmonary arrest" complicated by "restraint, and neck compression"


He guessed.

His death was cardiopulmonary arrest caused by a bad heart. Drugs and resisting arrest made it worse.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138874 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:42 am to
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ignore the neck compression entirely
How does one exclaim, "I can't breathe!" during asphyxiating neck compression?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:42 am to
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To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone based only on a drug concentration of 11 ng/ml, and to ignore the neck compression entirely, would stretch the bounds of credulity.”


And the jury ignored this and only considered the neck compression. Citing this opionion blows the verdict out of the water.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44237 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:43 am to
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“To say that the death was due to fentanyl alone


quote:

You must be illiterate. Read what I typed again.


Shim isn’t illiterate, shims has simply lost their argument when analyzed by any metric involving logic and common sense. That is the reason for the re-direct / deflection.

Thor pay should be docked for resorting to that tactic.

Share blue isn’t getting their money’s worth.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299406 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:47 am to
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How does one exclaim, "I can't breathe!" during asphyxiating neck compression?
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Precisely.

His airway was not cut off.

The exertion from resisting, the drugs in his system, and his weak heart killed him.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44237 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:47 am to
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How does one exclaim, "I can't breathe!" during asphyxiating neck compression?


If it’s his last breath…perhaps.

Repeatedly exclaiming that…I’m not sure. I suppose that one could argue that with each exclamation, that his breathing became exponentially more labored until he died.

I’m not a medical professional, so I’m just speculating, and could be way wrong, but to the lay person, this seems plausible to me.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:50 am to
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He’s citing people who gained immense financial advantage and/or professional esteem to provide an opinion.


You’ve cited…

*rechecks notes*

… nothing.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44237 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:51 am to
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You’ve cited… *rechecks notes* … nothing.


When you have to resort to outright lies as part of your deflection, it really exposes how weak that your argument actually is.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:52 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138874 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:52 am to
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If it’s his last breath…perhaps.

Repeatedly exclaiming that…I’m not sure. I suppose that one could argue that with each exclamation, that his breathing became exponentially more labored until he died.
Vocalizing during chest compression, perhaps. Vocalizing during asphyxiating neck compression ... nope.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:55 am to
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When you have to resort to outright lies as part of your deflection
Oh ok.

Which source has the user Robin Masters provided in this thread as a rebuttal to my posts.

I’ll wait.


EDIT: I’m actually still waiting for them to find those two other medical experts they claim testified for the defense. I would imagine they should be providing them real soon. Just hold tight.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 10:59 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299406 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 10:56 am to
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Which source has the user Robin Masters provided in this thread as a rebuttal to my posts.


You refuse to acknowledge posts

The stress from resisting was a contributing cause, not the cause.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:00 am to
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Chief medical examiner for the state of Maryland


Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:01 am to
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h ok. Which source has the user Robin Masters provided in this thread as a rebuttal to my posts. I’ll wait.


You are living proof of my claim. You are posting their name and credentials as a it were the literal word of God.

This was the trial of the century and they were on the fashionable side of it. Are you really trying to claim that these people won’t catch a MASSIVE professional tail wind from this trial?
Meanwhile, to contrast, Google the defense’s expert medical witness and see how he is treated by Google.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28099 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:01 am to
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:02 am to
Ok. So he said some random title without even offering their name.

Please provide the relevant quote or piece of testimony offered by that user.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35925 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:03 am to
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EDIT: I’m actually still waiting for them to find those two other medical experts they claim testified for the defense. I would imagine they should be providing them real soon. Just hold tight.


They had multiple including the paramedic that treated him. I never said I would provide three. That was a number you pulled out of your arse.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:03 am to
LINK

He testified for the defense. Are you just googling shite as it comes up in the thread?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 11:04 am to
You’ve offered zero evidence of an instance any of these experts said anything they believe is untrue other than simply stating “well they could be lying…”
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 11:05 am
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