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re: Department Of Education Throws A Wrench Into NCAA Revenue Sharing Model With Title IX Rule
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:44 am to GumboPot
Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:44 am to GumboPot
Maybe the answer is removing all "athletic scholarships/benefits" from an institutions responsibility all together. Kids get invited to tryout for a NCAA sport while in HS, then they have to get into the college, pay tuition (or a "sponsor" does...who may also chip in some spending cash, but that is no longer an NCAA violation), go to class, make grades, get a degree, fail out, take a job with the NFL halfway thru their junior year, or get some pay for a face on an EA sports cover, etc.
This a broad stoke.
Not sure how it effects the frosh co-ed with the much needed volleyball scholly to Birmingham Southern,
This a broad stoke.
Not sure how it effects the frosh co-ed with the much needed volleyball scholly to Birmingham Southern,
This post was edited on 1/17/25 at 9:55 am
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Posted on 1/17/25 at 9:49 am to GumboPot
This is dumb. NIL payments don’t come from “schools.” They come from NIL collectives which are purposefully not run/owned by the Universities themselves. It’s clickbait outrage p0rn.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:10 am to YipSkiddlyDooo
Yes. But this is relating to the revenue sharing part mostly, it does talk about nil from the outside, but that part won’t change with this rule. The revenue sharing part is from the university and is a huge 22 million or so amount. Teams had already made deals and plans with football getting a huge share. This would knock that amount down by 6 or 7 million.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:44 am to GumboPot
So, a below-average female tennis player will get as much as a Heisman QB? 
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:00 am to GumboPot
LSU gymnastics does not make money
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:25 pm to mgdtiger
yeah I misread your post and didn't see football
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:30 pm to GumboPot
The giant sucking sound is colleges and universities who will now fold up their athletic departments or they the larger universities will migrate this all over to the collectives. This is going to be an absolute disaster for schools who don't have the outside means to raise funds for their collectives.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:49 pm to GumboPot
So, Title IX could mean the death (or crippling) of NIL?
I’m not sure what to do here.
I’m not sure what to do here.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:55 pm to GumboPot
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NIL payments from schools to athletes must be given evenly to men and women’s athletes to comply with Title IX,
There is an unintended consequence to this ruling. And I saw it happen here. Robert Parish came back to Shreveport close to retiring from the NBA and offered Centenary College one million dollars for the men's basketball team. They informed Parish that the policy was to split donations with women's sports. He said 'Forget it' and left with his checkbook.
The men's team fell to Division III a few years later.
NIL money is not a mandatory check. It can stay in the donor's pocket.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 1:58 pm to GumboPot
What does the starting quarterback’s name, image, and likeness have to do with the third string softball right fielder?
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:08 pm to GumboPot
Schools can just have ALL of the male athletes in the male sports announce they now identify as females.
Problem solved!!
Problem solved!!
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:11 pm to GumboPot
I could that coming from a mile away
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:24 pm to GumboPot
Saw something that said that despite what they said. This is "guidance" and not a rule or regulation. So the NCAA and schools don't have to listen.
I can see how it applies to athletic department wide revenue sharing, but trying to apply Title IX to outside NIL funding. Never going to happen.
I can see how it applies to athletic department wide revenue sharing, but trying to apply Title IX to outside NIL funding. Never going to happen.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:28 pm to GumboPot
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So you’re saying the highest NIL recipient in the nation, Livvy Dunne has to share her NIL revenue with football players?
No. I specifically did not say that.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 2:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. I specifically did not say that.
Just to point out the text of the memo:
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OCR does not view compensation provided by a third party (rather than a school) to a student-athlete for use of their NIL as constituting athletic financial assistance awarded by the school that must comply with 34 C.F.R. § 106.37(c).
However, I do need to add that the memo DOES seem to be going here (what I said on page 2):
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we'll see what happens one day with the interactions between the schools and collectives because I can totally see the federal government ruling that these are direct payments because of the contact and making title 9 apply
Text:
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However, OCR has long recognized that a school has Title IX obligations when funding from private sources, including private donations and funds raised by booster clubs, creates disparities based on sex in a school’s athletic program or a program component.30 The fact that funds are provided by a private source does not relieve a school of its responsibility to treat all of its student-athletes in a nondiscriminatory manner.31 It is possible that NIL agreements between student-athletes and third parties will create similar disparities and therefore trigger a school’s Title IX obligations. Because these NIL agreements vary widely and continue to evolve and because the application of Title IX’s equal athletic opportunity requirements is a fact-specific inquiry, this Fact Sheet does not offer specific guidance on Title IX’s application in the context of compensation provided for the use of a student athlete’s NIL by a third party, including an NIL collective.
Summary:
I don't see how this oversight would ultimately survive, given the case that created NIL in the first place. But it will be interesting to watch.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 3:19 pm to GumboPot
So just pay womans tackle football same as mens football. Whats big deal?
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