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re: Denver shooting victim identified as pro-cop vet, shot in front of son
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:57 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:57 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
and it seems that the reporter was trying to get comment from him about that confrontation.
Here’s where your assumptions run amok.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 12:57 pm
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Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:58 pm to AggieHank86
From what I understand a reasonable response is required in CO and you are allowed to stand your ground, but a reasonable response to defend yourself. I took that as you can't shoot someone if they slap you but you can meet the response if you have a reasonable fear of imminent death. In this case, there was no imminent danger of great bodily harm or death and does not meet the requirements of a reasonable response.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:58 pm to the808bass
It's his same old shtick....
Same way he INTENTIONALLY called Rittenhouse a murderer then made a dishonest non-apology in the wake of getting called on his lies and bullzhit.
His idiot Narcissist azz won't let him realize people are on to his tricks.
Superior intellect my arse.
Same way he INTENTIONALLY called Rittenhouse a murderer then made a dishonest non-apology in the wake of getting called on his lies and bullzhit.
His idiot Narcissist azz won't let him realize people are on to his tricks.
Superior intellect my arse.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:59 pm to lachellie
What would give him the right to disarm Keltner?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:00 pm to the808bass
quote:
You really just want to argue.
Nope, it's unfortunately more than that.
Dude seriously suffers from NPD.
He's not sitting back laughing at the shite storm, he's compulsive in his behavior.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:01 pm to the808bass
quote:His ego.
What would give him the right to disarm Keltner?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:01 pm to the808bass
quote:I posit that a reporter is approaching a participant in a recent confrontation to ask him questions about that confrontation.quote:Here’s where your assumptions run amok.
and it seems that the reporter was trying to get comment from him about that confrontation.
The herd posits that his goal was to steal Kettner's gas canister and call him nasty names.
And you think that the latter is the more reasonable supposition. Anywhere but here, you would be ridiculed until you slunk away in shame.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:02 pm to ninthward
Here are the billion dollar questions that neither side of this argument wants an answer;
Can a cop shoot you for pepper spraying them? Can a cop shoot you for striking them in confrontational stance?
Can a cop shoot you if they think you’re about to pepper spray them?
Can a cop shoot you for pepper spraying them? Can a cop shoot you for striking them in confrontational stance?
Can a cop shoot you if they think you’re about to pepper spray them?
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:03 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
you slunk away in shame.
You should but you won't because you cannot help but suck...
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:03 pm to Tiguar
Cops carry guns, I prefer to stay alive, I don't f with cops.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:03 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The herd posits that his goal was to steal Kettner's gas canister and call him nasty names.
Who said the pussy reporter was going to steal the pepper spray.
Gas canister. Lol. You know exactly what you are doing.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:04 pm to ninthward
quote:Again, the Colorado self-defense statute has two prongs.
From what I understand a reasonable response is required in CO and you are allowed to stand your ground, but a reasonable response to defend yourself. I took that as you can't shoot someone if they slap you but you can meet the response if you have a reasonable fear of imminent death. In this case, there was no imminent danger of great bodily harm or death and does not meet the requirements of a reasonable response.
First, you can rely upon whether a reasonable person (objectively) would have been in fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. Second, you can rely upon your own subjective mental state.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:05 pm to AggieHank86
Upon further review of the newest picture presented, Keltner’s body is even with the fence post when Doloff makes initial contact. In the next picture, Keltner’s body has moved back from the fence post as his hand makes contact with Doloff. In the next picture, both Keltner’s body and feet have moved further back, away from the fence post and Doloff, as Doloff is reaching for his gun. In the final picture before Keltner hits the ground, he has taken ANOTHER step back from Doloff.
So the State has the burden to disprove that Doloff was acting in self defense against a retreating victim, a victim who had actually been retreating since Doloff initiated the physical altercation. However will they manage such a daunting legal challenge?!
So the State has the burden to disprove that Doloff was acting in self defense against a retreating victim, a victim who had actually been retreating since Doloff initiated the physical altercation. However will they manage such a daunting legal challenge?!
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:07 pm to AggieHank86
I feel the reporter is a plausible reason for these two to be in the area of the victim. Why the confrontation started is still unknown. However, that does not change the actions of the shooter and his unwillingness to disengage even when having a gun drawn with the upper hand.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:07 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The herd posits that his goal was to steal Kettner's gas canister and call him nasty names.
You do know that the news producer is a left-leaning sympathizer, right?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:07 pm to Lightning
He shot a guy that was backing away.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:08 pm to roadGator
quote:Give me an accurate description, and I will use it.
Gas canister. Lol. You know exactly what you are doing.
Some posters keep saying "mace." It was not mace. Some keep saying "pepper spray." It was not pepper spray. Both inaccurate terms are obviously employed to minimize the material in question.
"Gas cannister" seems neutral to me. It is a cannister, and it contains gas. But by all means give me a term that you think is accurate and that does not intentionally minimize the substance, as is clearly the intent in referencing "pepper spray" or "mace."
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:10 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
posit that a reporter is approaching a participant in a recent confrontation to ask him questions about that confrontation. The herd posits that his goal was to steal Kettner's gas canister and call him nasty names.
Who said that the reporter was going after the pepper spray?
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:45 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Pure speculation on your part and not germane to the discussion. The assailant put his hands on the victim. The victim responded. The assailant transitioned immediately to deadly force. He is not licensed or bonded for the duties he was contracted to perform. There is no need for further discussion. He is negligent. The only question is what degree of murder he will be tried under and what civil actions will be taken against his LLC, Pinkerton and 9News.
...it seems that the reporter was trying to get comment from him about that confrontation.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 1:52 pm to Tiguar
quote:
Here are the billion dollar questions that neither side of this argument wants an answer;
Can a cop shoot you for pepper spraying them? Can a cop shoot you for striking them in confrontational stance?
They can and do so legally. We can argue until we are blue in the face about whether it should be that way.. but it is.
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