ThatsNoMoon

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What is the general message? Not trolling. Just want to see what you get from Joe that Trump doesn't provide with messaging

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"If we can decide not to cooperate, we can decide to cooperate as well. That’s the choice I’ll make as president. But there’s something bigger going on in this nation than just our broken politics. Something darker, something more dangerous. I’m not talking about ordinary differences of opinion, competing viewpoints give life and vibrancy to our democracy. No, I’m talking about something different, something deeper. Too many Americans seek not to overcome our divisions, but to deepen them, we must seek not to build walls, but bridges. We must seek not to have our fist clenched, but our arms open. We have to seek not to tear each other apart, we seek to come together. You don’t have to agree with me on everything, or even on most things, to see that we’re experiencing today is neither good nor normal."

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That is not lethal force in this situation. And if you think it is you are going to prison.

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Hopefully I never find out. You live in a strange world where it seems like I'm supposed to voluntarily take an arse beating from a guy twice my size who could seriously injure me.

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We figured that out several pages back.

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I'm pretty sure my first post here was very open about it. I would love to vote for a moderate republican but I'm afraid they are not competitive in the current Republican party.

If I believe drawing my firearm is necessary to stop someone from hitting me again then I am well within my right to do so. At least in most southern states.

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Why is Biden a good choice?

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I wouldn't call him a good choice. I do like his general message.. but let's be very clear.. he is just the other guy at this point.

I'd gladly vote for President Pence. Instead we get DJT or Biden.

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But that still does not set the conditions for Dolloff to put his hands on him and then draw his weapon after he is slapped in self defense.

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Can you link a clip of Dolloff doing something that would justify Keltner taking a swing at him? We know for a fact that Keltner is the one who closed the distance between them.

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Can you shoot a cop after they pepper spray you?

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Not when they are acting legally.

For what it's worth.. and I'm no lawyer but this is how I see the scenario.

-Verbal confrontation begins
-Keltner, who is twice the size of producer/Doloff, aggressively moves to get in producers/Doloffs face, escalating the conflict from verbal to intimidation/threat of physical contact.
-Doloff steps in between (or doesn't move) and attempts to move Keltner back.
-Keltner hits Doloff in face, again escalating the conflict from intimidation to physical violence.
-Doloff reacts to the attack by grabbing and raising his weapon.
-Keltner reacts by moving backwards and raising/spraying his mace (or whatever it is)
-Doloff reacts to the movement of raising the canister or perhaps the spray itself and shoots.

All in about 2 seconds. If Doloff reached for the mace before he was slapped then I may change my mind.. it just happens so fast it's hard for me to blame someone who was just hit in the head.

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He reached for the mace not because there was a threat to his client but because he was pre-disposed to hate the person who was holding it.

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Ridiculous conjecture. Should Jake Gardner have been convicted of a crime for shooting and killing someone attempting to restrain him?

I don't think so at all. People like you are the reason he committed suicide.

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So pissed I hit submit before posting.

There are two kind of genetic characteristics in humans, in response to an attack. One is 'flight' (fear)...and the other is fight.

I really don't think those stupid, delusional yahoos in the MSM really realize the gravity of what they are doing. But if they keep doing it...the will. And will rue the day that they chose lies and double standards to cover for an enemy within.

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Using your fight or flight example.. why are you pissed? The victim was wearing large rings on all of his fingers (similar to brass knuckles) and hit the shooter in the face. He was standing with a group of people carrying knives, batons, and guns.

The Doloff guy may be guilty of murder. We'll get to see that play out in court and will have a much better idea of what actually happened. HOWEVER, we all know that Keltner guy would still be alive if he didn't hit Doloff in the face

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Was all this "performance art?" Does that look like a fired pistol? Zoom in on the ejected casing. That looks an awful lot like an entire bullet to me.

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Is the dead guy performance art too? Idiots.

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This board wants the DOJ to influence the elections

Shameful and embarrassing

And to see great people like dallastiger11 go along with it is shameful

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They want to win.. surely you can understand that?

Trump has the absolute authority to release the documents himself.. maybe he should.