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re: Dems file lawsuit against Trump to stop executive order banning non-citizens from voting

Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:02 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89820 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:02 am to
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courts have found that non-citizen voting is exceedingly rare



Remember when there was no fraud, then it was okay there is fraud but rare?


Here we have, no non citizens vote in our elections. Now it's, okay they do but it's rare.


Do you not see whats happening here Slow?


You are being lied to and you eat that shite up constantly. And more often than not the posters on this board are right and you are wrong.




Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Grok says:

Grok agrees with me.

The lawsuit is about all the other stuff it lists and never once argues non-citizens should be able to vote (and, in fact, effectively states the opposite, which, as you said, is already the law)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:04 am to
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Remember when there was no fraud, then it was okay there is fraud but rare?

You're conflating 2 things.

quote:

Here we have, no non citizens vote in our elections. Now it's, okay they do but it's rare.

Nobody has ever argued that the rate of non-citizens voting is 0.00000%.

That is a different discussion than the "fraud" one.

quote:

Do you not see whats happening here Slow?

I see your conflation to try to make a dishonest argument.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39698 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:12 am to
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And more often than not the posters on this board are right and you are wrong.


This is just flat out false.

If you can’t see the sensationalism click bait bullshite in the OP then you’re the one who is lost and confused here.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2977 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:13 am to
Trump is playing 4D chess and they are playing checkers. He went so extremely aggressive against policies that the democrats are destroying their own party fighting against his policies. Transgender men in sports, Fraud in government spending, illegal immigrant gangs and criminals and illegals voting. Democtas just look dumber by the day and Trump trolls the shite out of them.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109287 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:15 am to
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110andneveragain7


Bot or alter?
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6485 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:34 am to
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Democrats Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, and the DNC have filed a lawsuit against President Trump to stop his executive order banning non-citizens from voting in U.S. elections.
Why file a restraining order to block an EO over something that doesn't ever happen and "isn't widespread"?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97033 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:35 am to
Why do you people think we’re at war with the left? That’s just crazy talk!
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23829 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:44 am to
quote:

quote:
Grok says:

Grok agrees with me.

The lawsuit is about all the other stuff it lists and never once argues non-citizens should be able to vote (and, in fact, effectively states the opposite, which, as you said, is already the law)


For once, i wasn't actually disagreeing with you. Thought Groks reply was interesting and wanted to share.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:45 am to
Still don't believe me when I tell you every progressive here would replace you tomorrow with an illegal immigrant if they could?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11391 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:49 am to
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And more often than not the posters on this board are right and you are wrong.

This is just flat out false.


No, it's really not. But look who I'm talking to.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3336 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:50 am to
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In other words, the tweet is proven correct in its assertion. The Dems want noncitizens to be allowed to vote
*****

No. That's specifically not what the language in the lawsuit says.


As much as I dislike seeing posts that mockingly invoke your presence and your expected objections to whatever the topic is, you do draw it on yourself.

Of course, the suit filed by the Dems isn't going to explicity say the Dems are suing Trump to stop his EO that bans non-citizens from voting. Naturally, they're going to challenge his authority to enact an EO that encroaches on how states run elections when the lax rules of certain states advantage them, as well as challenging Trump's authority to marshal resources into ways that will disadvantage them.

The end result of the lawsuit, though, is to get rid of the EO that would clean up voter rolls, prosecute fraud... and implicitly and explicity make it harder for millions of recent illegal immigrants to vote, among other things.

The tweet in the OP is fine. It's addressing an aspect of the EO that the Dems are seeking to undermine. It isn't intended to be a thorough academic paper dryly covering every aspect of the EO, Democrat positions and the legitimate lines of demarcation between federal and state authority.

You're just resorting to your typical sophistry and trying to hide behind a technicality. You're not stupid, but this is the sort of bullshite you constantly push... smugly patting yourself on the back as if you just did something meaningful and showed some poor, unwashed MAGA poster a masterful display of logic.

I don't doubt you have success as an attorney but you're just a sophist hiding behind technicalities and flaws in arguments. You show little interest in truth and justice. Socrates and Plato would have hated you.

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65478 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:50 am to
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I found no reference to "immigrant" or "illegal"



Because Dems believe "no person is illegal"

Or something stupid like that. The lawsuit probably doesn't use he or she either.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27771 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:55 am to
This is why their approval rating is ~ 20% and free falling.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27771 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:56 am to
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bullshite sensationalism without substance.


But enough about you…
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:57 am to
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Someone needs to link the actual lawsuit. This sounds like a BREAKING: trust me, bro, situation
Look it up, Matlock, bro.


fricking douche
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4618 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 11:59 am to
So why don't you, for once, come right out and say what you believe: should illegal, non-citizens be allowed to vote in the US? You know, the ones' that don't pay taxes and such.


Just a 'yes' or 'no' will suffice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

should illegal, non-citizens be allowed to vote

No.

I've never said otherwise or used language leading to a reasonable interpretation that I argued otherwise.

That has nothing to do with intellectual dishonesty in the echo chamber.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:15 pm to
(If I laugh I can't cry about the reality)

None of this is real. And neither have the ridiculous events of the last 10 years WWE circuses, sh*tshows and absurdity ad nauseum been real.

These obstructionist judges know 100% that what they are doing is un-constitutional. They just embrace their pre-designated clown role as disruptors of a (former) system of justice that must by taken down.

The Controllers know there can't be a one world AI Global Governance if America's system of justice and rule of law isn't broken and shattered into thousands of pieces.

Big Picture -- They are taking it ALL down. Law. Finance. Economy. Education. Heathcare. You name it. It's as plain as day. It's not as though they haven't told us their plan: "Building Back Better." It's a fait accompli. We are swimming amidst the "Hope & Change" 0bama boasted about back in 2008. THIS IS THE RESET.

Prepare thy arse for your AI Overlord "Reps." They ain't building that $500 billion dollar AI Data Center for nothing.
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5334 posts
Posted on 4/2/25 at 12:22 pm to
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You're just resorting to your typical sophistry and trying to hide behind a technicality. You're not stupid, but this is the sort of bullshite you constantly push... smugly patting yourself on the back as if you just did something meaningful and showed some poor, unwashed MAGA poster a masterful display of logic. I don't doubt you have success as an attorney but you're just a sophist hiding behind technicalities and flaws in arguments. You show little interest in truth and justice. Socrates and Plato would have hated you.


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