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re: Dems Exactly who are these people that lack any valid form of ID

Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12500 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:53 pm to
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any of you actually met a person that has no ID?


You ever watch Live PD? Got a bunch of no ID having muhfuhckas
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:54 pm to
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Im not the one justifying an illogical thought like "citizens should be forced to always carry an ID"



You are being illogical assuming citizens would "always be forced to carry an ID". People wouldn't be forced to carry one, but would be required to provide ID for certain actions like voting, buying a gun, buying beer.

but nah...using your illogical nonsense, I should just be able to provide my name and address to prove that I can buy alcohol.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:54 pm to
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You ever watch Live PD? Got a bunch of no ID having muhfuhckas


But have you met any of the people on Live PD?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:58 pm to
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Why should anyone be required to carry an ID?


Why would anyone not want to have an ID?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7524 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:58 pm to
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Why would they need to know who I am? Why carry IDs? Do you also support a facial recognition database or require tracking devices implanted at birth?


so they know who they just arrested and how many times he been arrested before.

“Hey, didn’t we arrest that Bill guy just last week?”

“nah, that guy’s name was Dave”

“but they have same fingerprints?”

“i know but he said his name was Bill. Dude last week said his name was Dave. completely different dudes. they even told me different last 4 of their socials”
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31499 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Why should anyone be required to carry an ID?



They shouldn't be required to carry an ID. But obviously they should be required to provide (eta: this was supposed to say, "prove") their identity, to vote. And there is nothing that prohibits the polling places (and the bodies that govern them) from implementing a logical, efficient and uniformly applied system regarding the types of identification they will accept.

I understand removing literacy and property-ownership voting requirements. But if you can't procure a photo ID, especially given all of the registration drives and bussing that goes on, then you don't deserve to vote.

And if you don't bother to learn English, then i shouldn't have to pay to have shite translated for you, in order for you to vote "informed."
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 9:08 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19701 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:00 pm to
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Why should anyone be required to carry an ID?
um, to drive, or bank, or do any of a million different things. Here's the thing about an ID card, it helps prove who you are/what you are entitled to do. Might come in handy for something like voting, hmmmm?
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:00 pm to
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"citizens should be forced to always carry an ID"

Strawman.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:02 pm to
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And if you don't bother to learn English, then i shouldn't have to pay to have shite translated for you, in order for you to vote "informed."


This is kinda silly. Aren't People's names are spelled the same in english/spanish/other languages although they may be pronounced differently?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31499 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:10 pm to
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This is kinda silly. Aren't People's names are spelled the same in english/spanish/other languages although they may be pronounced differently?


Are you talking about candidates' names? If so, then sure. But I've had to read entire constitutional amendments and referenda before voting on them. I mean. I chose to read them and understand them. As every citizen should.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:36 pm to
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I get that the studies don’t show significant decreases in voter fraud with voter ID requirements.


It doesn't matter if a huge percentage of people don't vote because of the need for id proof to vote. So be it. You want to vote as person x, prove you are person x. If you don't have id to prove it that means you are to lazy to get an id card. Why the hell should I care if people are to lazy to vote, that only makes my vote carry more weight because of their laziness, and nothing that I did.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16178 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:49 pm to
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Nobody is suggesting they be required to carry an ID. 

Just provide an ID that second Tuesday in November if they want to vote.


Precisely

He's being intentionally obtuse....or maybe is just that ignorant.

You shouldn't NEED to carry an I.D. at all times, but if you want to vote (just like many other things) it should be required.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:52 pm to
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Im not the one justifying an illogical thought like "citizens should be forced to always carry an ID"


I don’t think people are saying any should be forced to ALWAYS carry an ID.

Just carry it into the voting booths.
It really makes no sense at all not to.

It’s really funny how the left is always claim that republicans are trying to rig elections, yet they block a very cheap and easy way to help prevent that.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:53 pm to
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Are you talking about candidates' names? If so, then sure. But I've had to read entire constitutional amendments and referenda before voting on them. I mean. I chose to read them and understand them. As every citizen should.


I sure was. But also translation is very simple nowadays. Its not like you have to hire an in house translator. It could easily be kinda like how you can chose closed caption languages on cable TV...
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10256 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:55 pm to
3 pages and not one person has even claimed to have met someone that doesn’t have some form of ID
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:02 pm to
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3 pages and not one person has even claimed to have met someone that doesn’t have some form of ID


Oh I’ve met a handful of people who have no ID at all.

Every single one was a non English speaking undocumented immigrant.

Now I’m sure there are a handful out there, but I have never met a single US citizen who did not have some form of identification. May not be on them at the time but they ALL have had one somewhere.
This post was edited on 5/24/18 at 10:04 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:06 pm to
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I don’t think people are saying any should be forced to ALWAYS carry an ID.


Some are.. like RCD
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63012 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:07 pm to
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Are you okay with the government forcing you to wear socks?


Try going to vote or enter a government building with no pants on.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:09 pm to
I would imagine millions of both dems and pubs in rural poor areas could give two shits about getting an ID and probably cant afford the gas to drive to adminstration building
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 5/24/18 at 10:10 pm to
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And why would that require an ID? My name and address or the last 4 of a social should be sufficient


You are either a troll or a freaking moron.
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