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re: Dems Exactly who are these people that lack any valid form of ID
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:18 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:18 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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B) If there are say 125K valid voters in any one district and lets say 1,000 people who voted who weren't qualified to vote but did anyway. Those other 125K people just saw their vote become worth less than in districts where no illegal voting happened. Thus, they were disenfranchised.
The 2000 Presidential Election was determined by less than a thousand votes, primarily in one district, in south Florida. 1000 illegal votes in Pensacola, where nobody expects it and half of the country's voters are disenfranchised. (FWIW, we all were in a no-win situation in 2000).
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:23 am to Covingtontiger77
As a Democrat, this is an issue where I agree with Republicans. The Democrats stance on this issue is racist and anybody can get an ID.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:26 am to TBoy
But she has an ID, social security card, just no birth certificate?
FWIW: My grandmother was born on a reservation in OK, her original birth certificate from 1917 has "approximate" typed next to birth date.
FWIW: My grandmother was born on a reservation in OK, her original birth certificate from 1917 has "approximate" typed next to birth date.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:31 am to TBoy
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100% U.S. citizen, born and raised here, but never had any official record of having been born.
How many times has she voted? Has she ever driven a car? Is she receiving SS??
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:55 am to TBoy
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Better than that. We made plans to bring along on a vacation to Canada the elderly lady who helps take care of my son. She's a black lady in her 70s born in rural St. Martin Parish. She has no birth certificate. The state has no birth certificate. There never was a birth certificate. But we needed a U.S. Passport for her to fly with us to Canada. You wouldn't believe what we had to go through to get it done. But we did it with old baptism records, primary school records, affidavits, etc. She's a 100% U.S. citizen, born and raised here, but never had any official record of having been born.
Cool story which proves the point. This woman managed to get a passport.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:36 am to bmy
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My name and address or the last 4 of a social should be sufficient
Maybe to prove that it's the last 4 of your social?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:39 am to bmy
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And why would that require an ID? My name and address or the last 4 of a social should be sufficient
I've seen a lot of dumb shite on this website. This is the dumbest by a mile.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:43 am to VADawg
Here's a fact, if you argue that we MUST run background checks for gun purchases , which require by the way that you show a state approved ID, but you argue against voter ID, you are a retard that the world would be better off without.
They are the exact same thing. We want to make sure that only people who should be exercising a right are exercising a right.
Related, if you are a conservative who either doesn't understand that voting is a right or who argues for Voter ID but is against background checks to purchase guns, you are also stupid.
They are the exact same thing. We want to make sure that only people who should be exercising a right are exercising a right.
Related, if you are a conservative who either doesn't understand that voting is a right or who argues for Voter ID but is against background checks to purchase guns, you are also stupid.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:45 am to TBoy
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She's a 100% U.S. citizen, born and raised here, but never had any official record of having been born.
Since y’all were paying her for her services as a nanny, seems like she would have shown up on both your tax records and hers.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:46 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Hispanics are like billiard balls: the harder you hit them - the more English you get out of them!
A classic and one of my favorites. Well done.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:48 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Here's a fact, if you argue that we MUST run background checks for gun purchases , which require by the way that you show a state approved ID, but you argue against voter ID, you are a retard that the world would be better off without.
I was quoting someone else. I'm all for voter ID and background checks for guns.
ETA: I was calling the guy a moron who said he should just be able to tell someone his name, address, and last 4 of SSN as opposed to having an ID as if identity theft is not a thing.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 11:51 am
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:53 am to IslandBuckeye
Because we are not fricking Russia ?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 1:04 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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This is, yet another, example of zero principles on the left. Are you more safe because we limit some peoples ability to buy firearms, which means making them LESS free? Of course you fricking are because in all instances, more safety for the masses means more freedom for the masses
I agree with this 100%.
Good government can actually make you more free. It's just a tough sell to the anti-regulation types.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 6:24 am to McLemore
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What are the chances that a US citizen who doesn't read English can read and understand a constitutional amendment in any language?
What on earth are you smoking? Why would someone not understand an amendment If they happened to only speak (for example) spanish and the text was available in spanish? So if it were available in any language, I would bet anyone that could read it would understand it just as well as your average American.
As far as donating my own money, it literally took 3 seconds at no charge to copy and paste the same amendment into google translate lmao.
LA LEY DE MARSY: UN MODELO DE ESTADO CONSTITUCIONAL
ENMIENDA PARA PERMITIR A LAS VÍCTIMAS LOS DERECHOS SIGNIFICATIVOS
A. Preservar y proteger a las víctimas de la justicia y el debido proceso en todo
los sistemas de justicia penal y juvenil, una víctima tendrá los siguientes
derechos que se protegerán de una manera no menos vigorosa que los derechos
otorgado al acusado; ser tratado con justicia y respeto por la víctima
seguridad, dignidad y privacidad; previa solicitud, a la notificación razonable y oportuna de
y estar presente en todos los procedimientos públicos que involucren al delincuente o delincuente
conducta; ser escuchado en cualquier procedimiento público que implique la liberación, la súplica,
sentencia, disposición, libertad condicional y cualquier procedimiento público durante el cual un derecho
de la víctima está implicado; a una protección razonable contra el acusado o cualquier
persona que actúa en nombre del acusado; previa solicitud, a un aviso razonable de
cualquier liberación o escape de un acusado; rechazar una entrevista, deposición u otra
solicitud de descubrimiento presentada por el acusado o por cualquier persona que actúe en nombre del
acusado; a una restitución completa y oportuna; a procedimientos libres de irrazonables
demora y pronta conclusión del caso; previa solicitud, consultar con el
abogado del gobierno; y ser informado de todos los derechos enumerados en
esta sección.
B. La víctima, el abogado de la víctima u otro representante legal, o el
abogado del gobierno a petición de la víctima puede afirmar en cualquier juicio
o tribunal de apelación, o ante cualquier otra autoridad, con jurisdicción sobre el caso,
y ha hecho cumplir, los derechos enumerados en esta sección y cualquier otro derecho
otorgado a la víctima por ley. El tribunal u otra autoridad con jurisdicción
actuará con prontitud en tal solicitud. Esta sección no crea ninguna causa de
acción por compensación o daños contra el Estado, cualquier subdivisión política
del Estado, cualquier funcionario, empleado o agente del Estado o de cualquiera de sus
subdivisiones, o cualquier funcionario o empleado de la corte.
C. Como se usa en esta sección, una "víctima" incluye a cualquier persona contra la cual
el delito o acto delictivo se comete o que es directamente y
daño inmediato por la comisión de la ofensa o acto. El termino
"Víctima" no incluye al acusado ni a una persona que el tribunal considere
no actuar en el mejor interés de un fallecido, incompetente, menor o incapacitado
víctima.
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Posted on 5/26/18 at 6:31 am to Covingtontiger77
Democrat victories hinge on the votes of people who are legitimately too stupid to function, otherwise. They say it themselves, just not in so many words.
This post was edited on 5/26/18 at 6:32 am
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