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re: Democrats to scale back Treasury’s IRS bank reporting plan amid GOP uproar

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Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
5750 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:23 am to
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accounts with more than $10,000 in annual deposits or withdrawals,

So now just anyone who has to use direct deposit for their weekly pay checks
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3217 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:30 am to
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We are suffering with this garbage because some people are tax cheats.


Nah...we're suffering this because the government is intrusive and does not respect our 4th Amendment rights.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62772 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:32 am to
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So now just anyone who has to use direct deposit for their weekly pay checks


Which is basically everyone. Even government entities do direct deposit.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62772 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:38 am to
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You are batting 1000 on incorrect information in your post today.


Maybe so. That one post might have been faulty. Dunno. The $600 was just as ridiculous as $10,000. Whether it's monthly or yearly makes no difference.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7642 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:45 am to
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Additionally, I don't understand why this isn't getting more outrage, even from the left. This is a massive invasion of privacy and a power grab.


You still thing the "left" cares about privacy? What have you been paying attention to lately? LOL. They've moved completely out of the closet in full support of complete authoritarianism.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:45 am to
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Nah...we're suffering this because the government is intrusive and does not respect our 4th Amendment rights.


Everyone who pays taxes should want all others to fairly pay taxes. Fairly... not at stupid high rates... but fairly.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
4140 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 10:52 am to
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But there is still a tremendous amount of income under-reporting by small businesses especially unincorporated ones.


Yes, I believe they refer to this as “the underground economy.”
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3217 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:00 am to
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Everyone who pays taxes should want all others to fairly pay taxes. Fairly... not at stupid high rates... but fairly.


Agreed, but they shouldn't be willing to sacrifice their Constitutional rights to do so. This is the slippery slope that many folks were worried about when the Patriot Act started requiring banks to report "cash" transactions greater than $10K in the name of fighting terrorism. We're sliding further down that slope. The bottom is a place that will require every cash transaction be reported...or perhaps they'll just do away with cash completely and go to a digital currency.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84558 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:01 am to
$10,000 is still fricking absurd
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:15 am to
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Agreed, but they shouldn't be willing to sacrifice their Constitutional rights to do so.


Do you think W-2 reporting, 1099 reporting, mortgage interest reporting, etc, are sacrificing constitutional rights?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18504 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:36 am to
It’s still just as unconstitutional.

But they justified the Patriot act to protect Americans against terrorism.

So I’m sure they will find a way to justify it. And people will buy it.
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3217 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 11:37 am to
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Do you think W-2 reporting, 1099 reporting, mortgage interest reporting, etc, are sacrificing constitutional rights?


No. Those things don't involve the government snooping into everyone's private bank accounts.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:15 pm to
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We are suffering with this garbage because some people are tax cheats.
bullshite. We're suffering though this because the government want to spy on people without a warrant.
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4442 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:28 pm to
So how's about we scale back on Dems and throw them all into a piranha tank?
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7914 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:15 pm to


Do not allow. Once they set up the system for $10,000, failing the limit to $600 will be easy.

Call. Your. Congressional people now. Stop this BS.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1800 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:31 pm to
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Additionally, I don't understand why this isn't getting more outrage, even from the left. This is a massive invasion of privacy and a power grab.


Literally ever single person that I know; left, right, center hates this. This is not a left right issue, this is an assault on the senses for even the most ignorant.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:33 pm to
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Once they set up the system for $10,000
No one with an income of $10k pays any significant amount in taxes, even if they report all of it.

This isn't to catch "tax cheats".
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12961 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:47 pm to
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The revised version of the bank reporting proposal will also weaken its scope by exempting all wage income from counting toward the $10,000 threshold 

That's alittle closer to what it should be, which is a nonexistent proposal.

Again, screw the Democrats and this proposal. Quit spending money and you wouldn't need to "find" more.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103152 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:52 pm to
They are more than capable of using their current data collection methods and data mining to find leads.

They are already cooperating with numerous states through several programs such as CP2000, Fed State Match, and garnishments to flag accounts which are non-filers or underpaying OR have a judgment against them to be garnished.


This is about them wanting a much bigger pool of data to work with without having to pay for private sources or get off their asses to tune their data mining profiles to find hits.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35779 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:53 pm to
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After a backlash, the new proposal will instead require the provision of additional information for accounts with more than $10,000 in annual deposits or withdrawals,


How is that any better? This measure would collect data on just about every single direct deposit account in the country.
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