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death rates up 40 percent over pre-pandemic levels

Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 10:53 am
As the pandemic enters its second year running, the number of deaths the virus has caused is likely much greater than official numbers indicate, setting a historic record.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains that excess deaths are associated with COVID-19 directly or indirectly, typically defined as the difference between the observed number of deaths in specific time periods and the expected number of deaths in the same time periods.

Currently, since Feb. 1, 2020, the CDC estimates there have been 942,431 excess deaths in the U.S.

That's a staggering amount, as J Scott Davidson, CEO of insurance company OneAmerica, explained during a healthcare conference organized by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce this week. Davidson said that his company is seeing the highest death rates now than he’s ever seen before since he started in the insurance business.

Even more alarming is where those death rates are hitting, with Davidson saying it’s primarily among working aged people, between the ages of 18 and 64.

Notably, Davidson said that even if COVID-19 is not listed on a person’s death certificate, that doesn’t mean the virus didn’t play a role. For example, Davidson said a person can contract COVID-19 and recover, but the virus could have triggered a separate illness that eventually leads to death.

“It may not all be Covid on their death certificates, but deaths are up in just huge, huge numbers,” Davidson said.

Excess deaths haven’t been evenly distributed among the U.S. population either, with The National Cancer Institute finding that roughly 2.9 million people died in the U.S. between March 1 and Dec. 21, 2020, 74 percent of them due to COVID-19 with 477,200 identified excess deaths. LINK
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:09 am to
All crisis actors.
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:16 am to
The vaccine is deadlier than I thought
Posted by Pepperoni
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

As the pandemic enters its second year running, the number of deaths the virus has caused is likely much greater than official numbers indicate, setting a historic record.


Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:50 pm to
bullshite

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains that excess deaths are associated with COVID-19 directly or indirectly, typically defined as the difference between the observed number of deaths in specific time periods and the expected number of deaths in the same time periods.


frick them. Stopping old people’s will to live because they couldn’t see their loved ones isn’t a Covid death. It’s a CDC/Fed Gov death.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:52 pm to
So slow Joe didn't save the day after all. Who could have seen that coming or that he is held to a different standard by the media than Trump?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:53 pm to
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the number of deaths the virus has caused is likely much greater than official numbers indicate, setting a historic record.




It's is 100%, without a doubt, MUCH lower.

ETA: They just don't want to admit the reality of the situation: overreaction to COVID has resulted in a lower standard of care surrounding literally everything else.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:55 pm to
Joe Bidens America
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44430 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:56 pm to
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) explains


Stopped here.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22764 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:01 pm to
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ETA: They just don't want to admit the reality of the situation: overreaction to COVID has resulted in a lower standard of care surrounding literally everything else.

As with everything CDC related, there are a lot of questions about how "excess deaths" are calculated. If you look at their expected trend line, hard to understand what you see. For example, in a country that's getting older, is growing (especially with the open border), and one year into a pandemic that's supposedly killing everybody, why are there periods of time in 2021 that a drop in deaths is forecast? And then when you consider these assholes are the same ones scoring a murder/suicide as two "Covid deaths" because the dead couple had asymptotic Covid and positive tests 3 weeks before the wife was caught banging the neighbor, your natural skepticism ratchets up even more - unless you're a pussy on the Left, of course.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89811 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:17 pm to
The highest increase is between 30-39 year olds.


It aint covid, its suicide and fentanyl.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:23 pm to
Here are my 2 questions, and the answers shouldn't require a lengthy analytical qualifier, just numbers will be fine:


1. What was the total number of deaths from all causes combined the US each year from 2010-2019?


2. What is the total number of deaths in the US from All Causes Combined in 2020 and 2021?


"All causes combined" is in bold for a reason, and if you don't understand the reason, you're part of the problem.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:23 pm to
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periods of time in 2021 that a drop in deaths is forecast?


Lol. They trippin.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40406 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:27 pm to
Brandon is letting this virus kill all of us.

He said he would shite the virus down.

Actually, our economy is shutting down.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:31 pm to
The number climbed pretty good from 2010-2019.

So for 2019, it was a total of 2.854M deaths. That number was increasing somewhere around 30k-60k per year.

2016 - 2.74M

2020 - 3.38M

So there was a huge huge jump from 2019 to 2020. I would guess it’s close to 66% Covid and 33% shitty handling of Covid.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70503 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:34 pm to
It seems to me that the following are all plausible or confirmed:
1. Covid is very dangerous to the elderly and morbidly obese

2. The covid vaccine causes serious heart issues in active folks under 40

3. Isolation greatly increases rates of suicide and drug overdoses

4. the heart issues caused by the covid vaccine make drug users especially susceptible to heart attack

5. The treatment protocols for Covid using Remdesivir and ventilators causes kidney failure which may be increasing fatalities.

6. There are multiple treatments available for Covid which are being actively suppressed by the government and the media in order to rationalize emergency authorization for the Covid vaccine, which greatly reduced the burden for testing

7. Forcing covid positive patients to be admitted into nursing homes, particularly in New York, New Jersey, and Michigan, resulted in at least tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Isolation greatly increases rates of suicide and drug overdoses


As well as diabetes and Alzheimer’s deaths.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:36 pm to
Really good summary.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16476 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

the number of deaths the virus has caused is likely much greater than official numbers indicate
quote:

2.9 million people died in the U.S. between March 1 and Dec. 21, 2020, 74 percent of them due to COVID-19
quote:

even if COVID-19 is not listed on a person’s death certificate, that doesn’t mean the virus didn’t play a role.


You'd have to be a septic tank to swallow this much bullshite!
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