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Dean Of Berkeley Law & Law Professor Wife Suddenly Outraged By Behavior Of Fellow Progs…
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:14 pm
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FWIW, Chemerinsky seems to be the last of a dying breed — a leftist that is a free speech absolutist.
Yet this ultimately is the end result of all these Jacobin movements: they invariably will turn upon themselves as sure as the sun will rise in the morning sky.
It is not a matter of if but when.
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:15 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Rules for thee but not for me
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:19 pm to SCLibertarian
This is like when the dangerous animal you picked out and took in, thinking you were going to own it, suddenly and without warning attacks you and chews your face off.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:21 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Diversity is our strength!
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:26 pm to Toomer Deplorable
That shite is great.
frick all of them and I don't wish them well.
frick all of them and I don't wish them well.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:30 pm to LuckyTiger
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This is like when the dangerous animal you picked out and took in, thinking you were going to own it, suddenly and without warning attacks you and chews your face off.
This is a grueling yet very apt analogy.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:34 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Diversity is our strength.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:37 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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In the end, violent white supremacists with fancy degrees
Oh yeah, here we go.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:39 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Life gets a little complicated venturing outside those Ivory towers.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:40 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Buy the ticket, take the ride.
Maybe time to go back to objective admissions criteria rather than "personal narrative."
Maybe time to go back to objective admissions criteria rather than "personal narrative."
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:42 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Why do Muslim women wear a towel around their head? Do they have active sweat glans?
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:42 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Chemerinsky seems to be the last of a dying breed — a leftist that is a free speech absolutist.
Apparently, not in his backyard, he isn’t.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:44 pm to SOSFAN
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Why do Muslim women wear a towel around their head? Do they have active sweat glans?
I used to see the full burka women in the Quad at LSU. I referred to them as Jawas, because quite frankly, that’s what they looked like.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:44 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Same thing happened with Walter Isaacson at a Tulane event recently.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 3:45 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Chemerinsky seems to be the last of a dying breed — a leftist that is a free speech absolutist.
I met him once. He was a really good debater at Northwestern (not the one in La.). Extremely intelligent young guy. Later on I noticed he was a TV analyst during the OJ trial. He did a really good job at that.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:13 pm to Toomer Deplorable
To be fair, these people are old school liberals.
He is for free speech, even that which is offensive and racist.
What he isn't for are for trespassers. These people were trespassing in his back yard and they had every right to make reasonable attempts to move them.
He is for free speech, even that which is offensive and racist.
What he isn't for are for trespassers. These people were trespassing in his back yard and they had every right to make reasonable attempts to move them.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:15 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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This protest occurred in Dean Chemerinsky's private garden at a graduation party for registered student guests.
California permits the use of reasonable force to eject a trespasser who refuses to leave private property, so the event in this video is likely not an assault.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:17 pm to Godfather1
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his backyard
“His backyard” is the key phrase there.
Chemerinsky supports free speech in the public sphere — and even the quasi-public sphere such as social media platforms.
Chemerinsky was indeed critical of Big Tech’s banning of Trump and likewise voiced opposition to the recent gag order placed on Trump by a U.S. District Court:
Erwin Chemerinsky: Donald Trump has the right to be rude…
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Troubling ruling
What is particularly troubling about Chutkan’s order is that it seems primarily concerned with protecting prosecutors and court personnel from Trump’s vitriol. The law is clear that speech can’t be restricted to prevent government officials from being criticized or even vilified.
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the First Amendment protects a right to criticize government officials, even harshly. In New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, issued in 1964, the court unanimously declared that the amendment expresses a “profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials.”
There is no reason to believe, moreover, that Trump’s criticism of Smith, his staff or court personnel will prevent a fair trial. It is impossible to imagine that Trump’s attacks will change how the prosecutors behave. And given all that Trump has said and all that has been said about the events of Jan. 6, it is inconceivable that more speech will do much more to prejudice prospective jurors.
Trump’s got the right
Chutkan could have issued a narrower order limited to speech about witnesses but didn’t. Ultimately, the judge imposed a gag order on Trump because his speech is often unpleasant and offensive. But that is simply not a basis for restricting speech under the First Amendment. We may loathe what Trump says, but we must defend his right to say it.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:20 pm to SaintsTiger
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occurred in Dean Chemerinsky's private garden
In a sane world, that SHOULD be the end of it.
"It's our house. Get out."
"NO"
"Well, don't say I didn't ask..."
Posted on 4/14/24 at 4:24 pm to Toomer Deplorable
My brother has had several meetings with that dude (not when he was at Cal Berkeley, at another institution).
Supposedly he's a really nice guy, but one of those props that thinks everyone is a good person.
Supposedly he's a really nice guy, but one of those props that thinks everyone is a good person.
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