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re: Dan Bongino speaks about the Thomas Massie debate

Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:18 pm to
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Simply address the policies, if you can.


They can’t.


It flips so often, I imagine its hard to keep up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:18 pm to
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but it seems like with Massey he resides more or less in permanent opposition to Trump and his agenda.

Then you aren't paying any attention and are just listening to NPC talking points

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The problem is he isn't a team player and in politics you got to come on in and support the team. When they really needed that extra vote to push something over the line Massey isn't here for there for them.

Oh wow, and you're doubling down with in/out group silliness.

Please re-read the post

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Don't use referential or irrelevant (who endorsed him) points. Simply address the policies, if you can.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1153 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:22 pm to
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WE GOT A REFERENTIAL ARGUMENT ATTEMPT


I'm not in debate club, and neither are most of the posters here. There are no gotcha points for breaking the debate rules "counselor". If you want to avoid addressing the merits of the comment because it disagrees with you and instead shift to rules of debate, then that reflects poorly on you. I have said what I said, and you can choose to use your big brain to extract the meaning and respond or you can deflect. Your choice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:23 pm to
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. If you want to avoid addressing the merits of the comment because it disagrees with you

When you can adequately explain how it's relevant to a discussion of a Republican primary, I'll answer.

Note: you won't be able to, because this discussion has nothing to do with the left.

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because it disagrees with you and instead shift to rules of debate,

It's about relevance, not "rules of debate".
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:25 pm to
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I haven't followed this saga particularly closely but it seems like with Massey he resides more or less in permanent opposition to Trump and his agenda.
Nah. Only the parts where Trump is aligned with democrats.

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The problem is he isn't a team player and in politics you got to come on in and support the team.
Damn. I must be getting old. I'm old enough to remember when Trump and "MAGA" was all about *NOT* going along with the GOPE. Such a long time ago....
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42088 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:26 pm to
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Oh wow, and you're doubling down with in/out group silliness.


What I am saying is that in politics you may have to choke one down for the greater good.

I have heard JD speak about it and the Administration's frustration has boiled over with him for being utterly unreliable. So - yeah they are going to try and get him out of there.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:27 pm to
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What I am saying is that in politics you may have to choke one down for the greater good.





Update: You're still not addressing the policies. I'll post a reminder of the question for you:

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What's your problem with those policies?

Don't use referential or irrelevant (who endorsed him) points. Simply address the policies, if you can.
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 10:28 pm
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1153 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:30 pm to
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When you can adequately explain how it's relevant to a discussion of a Republican primary, I'll answer


I'm not begging for your response. My statement was a statement and it stands. Your input on many topics has been frequently incorrect and inflammatory many times. If you want to refute my comment, feel free to do so. My comment to you was an attempt to educate you that your style is not conducive to interaction on these boards and your education and understanding could be better employed here to inform people rather than being the abrasive arse you apparently enjoy being.
This post was edited on 5/18/26 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:30 pm to
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What I am saying is that in politics you may have to choke one down for the greater good.
Paul? Paul Ryan? Issat you? Or is it John Boeher?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:32 pm to
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If you want to refute my comment, feel free to do so.

I did. I proved it was completely irrelevant. Your attempt at a point was a failure and has been completely refuted.

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and your education and understanding could be better employed here to educate people

I'm doing that right now by being very nice and explaining how relevance works. Whether you learn the lesson is on you, at this point.
Posted by 10thyrsr
Texas
Member since Oct 2020
1153 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:36 pm to
It is a shame you are being so snarky. No moment or pause for introspection. I do, truly, value your input. You make it so indigestible to everyone that your wonderful insight is lost. I'm not going to engage with you in this thread any further, but I think it is a tragedy that you do not seek to refine your technique to be more amiable.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10890 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:55 pm to
That fruit, Bongina, blocked me on X a few months back.

Ask him simple questions and he gets butthurt instantly.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10836 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:57 pm to
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Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157946 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:57 pm to
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yeah they are going to try and get him out of there.


By any means necessary…

I seem to have seen that movie.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11853 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:14 pm to
Takes one to know one
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:16 pm to
Compromised coward has something to say...great. frick that dude for eternity
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1361 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:21 pm to
I just hit a random post to reply to, but my spidey senses suspect Massie may not be the god or the devil most of you want him to be. I wonder if he's the new Ron DeSantis. He seems to have good takes, but not Trump friendly, but what if he changes hats? Then What? There's a lot people here spiking the football..
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:21 pm to
It's a shame he turned into something completely useless.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10890 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:35 pm to
This meme sucks and you suck, too.
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