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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:30 pm to Athanatos
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:30 pm to Athanatos
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I wouldn’t read too much into that right now. It takes time for death data to get filtered into those stats. There may still be a downward trend, but we can’t forget that this data is getting consistently updated.
You would have to agree it is likely more accurate than the COVID frickery we've seen in July to this point, would you not?
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 6:13 am to Ace Midnight
Am I the only one the finds it interesting that all these charts and graphs exist for covid but none for the flu season to compare.... I know, sorry for repetitive but just infuriated by the politics.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:09 am to dafif
quote:The flu has antivirals and a vaccine and a much lower death rate. It also doesn't appear to leave lingering damage as much. What about the flu are you infuriated about?
Am I the only one the finds it interesting that all these charts and graphs exist for covid but none for the flu season to compare
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:48 am to Big Scrub TX
Lingering damage? Link?
You talking about on a couple of kids?
You talking about on a couple of kids?
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:07 pm to Crimsonians
There’s buzz about heart and lung effects that linger past the infection. We don’t have any long-term data (and couldn’t) to support that.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:20 pm to the808bass
quote:Not from anyone in the medical community with any decency. There is no signs at all this leads to long term effect accept in sever cases where secondary infection was grave(ie vented cases)
There’s buzz about heart and lung effects that linger past the infection. We don’t have any long-term data (and couldn’t) to support that.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:24 pm to lsupride87
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There is no signs at all this leads to long term effect
That’s probably an overstatement.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 12:31 pm to the808bass
It’s not an overstatement at all. We have done plenty of labs and scans of recovered patients, and cross referenced with other systems nationally and globallly
Labs and screens are all unremarkable
Labs and screens are all unremarkable
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:03 pm to the808bass
Ok. No proof. Got it.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 1:06 pm to Crimsonians
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Chromedome, I keep an eye on Louisiana and compute two stats...
death rate of cases reported, which continues to drop, my calculation is 4.8% today
percentage of tests performed to cases reported, which is 8.1% today...
I'm going to track this for a week or so and post daily...
So for Tuesday 7 July...death rate of cases reported, 4.7%; tests performed to cases reported 8.05%
For Wednesday, 8 July - death rate of cases reported, still at 4.7%; tests performed to cases reported 8.1%
Thursday, 9 July - death rate of cases reported, dropped to 4.5%; tests performed to cases reported, up to 8.17%
Friday, 10 July - death rate of cases reported, dropped to 4.38%; tests performed to cases reported, up to 8.24%
Saturday, 11 July - death rate of cases reported, dropped to 4.29%; tests performed to cases reported, up to 8.3%
Sunday, 12 July - death rate of cases reported, dropped to 4.23%; tests performed to cases reported, up to 8.35%
so far, what I'm still seeing is a decrease in the death rate per cases reported, while the cases reported (found) to tests performed is increasing by fractions of a percent...
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 2:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
this thread was filled with good analysis until the death rate started going up again and people started getting mad it didnt fit their narrative.
yes more testing is more cases.
yes we are better at treating and preventing serious scenarios.
its probably less deadly than when it started in some respects.
yes lots and lots of people are going to die from this and already have.
yes some of that is preventable.
yes some of it isnt.
wear a mask, avoid over crowded social gatherings and weigh where you are on risk scales to how much you worry about it. but also try and consider others especially in essential areas like work and grocery stores, hospitals.
i am glad this does appear to use good numbers and present dats for me to make my own opinion. thanks for updating chromedome
yes more testing is more cases.
yes we are better at treating and preventing serious scenarios.
its probably less deadly than when it started in some respects.
yes lots and lots of people are going to die from this and already have.
yes some of that is preventable.
yes some of it isnt.
wear a mask, avoid over crowded social gatherings and weigh where you are on risk scales to how much you worry about it. but also try and consider others especially in essential areas like work and grocery stores, hospitals.
i am glad this does appear to use good numbers and present dats for me to make my own opinion. thanks for updating chromedome
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 2:32 pm to oklahogjr
Your welcome. My whole goal with this was to give people a source for the numbers in an easy to consume format with no bias so you can make your own decisions.
God knows the media isn't going to do it.
God knows the media isn't going to do it.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 2:46 pm to oklahogjr
quote:
this thread was filled with good analysis until the death rate started going up again and people started getting mad it didnt fit their narrative.
The data is either being manipulated of sloppily reported or both.
Over half the deaths reported last week occurred prior to June. That’s almost malfeasance even if it’s just late.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 2:54 pm to the808bass
quote:
Over half the deaths reported last week occurred prior to June.
Correct. The only remaining question is - whether or not they have been double reported now.
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That’s almost malfeasance even if it’s just late.
It is definitely malfeasance if late, particularly if reported late and someone else had to chase that down.
If it is double reporting, then, I hate to drag out the word conspiracy, but that will do until a better word comes along. I mean, at the end of the day it may just be utter greed at getting COVID money, but seems like more is going on there. Everyone was starting to get back to normal in late June, CHOP broke up, riots were levelling out to a degree, then we had a week of really ugly, and now we're seeing effectively manufactured, bad COVID stats. How they were manufactured and why are the big remaining questions.
This post was edited on 7/12/20 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:15 pm to the808bass
quote:How can we tell that?
Over half the deaths reported last week occurred prior to June.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
Look back a page or two
Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:25 pm to the808bass
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Over half the deaths reported last week occurred prior to June.
That’s disturbing if it can be confirmed. Where’d you see this?
BTW, is there any reputable data that shows number of deaths “from” COVID plottted against the date of actual death? That would seem to be key for unbiased epidemiologist to assess trends, effects from mask policies, testing, etc. If this kind of common sense data is not available it sure makes me wonder why “experts” wouldn’t want to know this info.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:45 pm to FlySaint
There's data a page or two back.
Whether it's reputable remains to be seen.
Whether it's reputable remains to be seen.
Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:54 pm to Chromdome35
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted on 7/12/20 at 6:32 pm to the808bass
quote:I keep seeing this posted from the contingent that is trying to take the extreme other side of the fearmongerers, but the data source I keep seeing references are the official COVID deaths by the CDC.
Over half the deaths reported last week occurred prior to June. That’s almost malfeasance even if it’s just late.
But the CDC explicitly states in the page that 63% of deaths are RECEIVED (from the states) within 10 days and it takes an additional 7 days to manually add COVID-19 deaths.
And one of the hardest hit early states (Connecticut) along with North Carolina were both like 10-12 weeks for almost all data last I checked.
But the data worldometer is tracking is completely different, so the 5000+ deaths that were was reported last week on worldometer, about 3,200 will be added to the CDC data within 17 days so over 1,800 probably won’t be added for who knows how long.
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