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Dad gave me the cop talk when I was 14 years old
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:57 pm
Dad was a probation officer, as was his brother and two nephews. His father in law, my grandpa was a detective. I was about to get my driver’s license and he sat me down and said, “ I work with cops all the time and most of them are good people but every department has a few jerks that just like beating people up. Do what they ask
And don’t argue. If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.” Later when I was in my late teens he doubled down on this argument when he suspected we were going to The French Quarter. (We lived in the north shore)
My friend got his arm broke in the Quarter by a cop over nothing, well almost nothing. I guess his Dad didn’t give hhim m the talk.
Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
And don’t argue. If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.” Later when I was in my late teens he doubled down on this argument when he suspected we were going to The French Quarter. (We lived in the north shore)
My friend got his arm broke in the Quarter by a cop over nothing, well almost nothing. I guess his Dad didn’t give hhim m the talk.
Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:59 pm to zeebo
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
Yes. And Chris Rock has a great skit on it.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:59 pm to zeebo
Great advice. Many cops want a reason to use their training.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:00 pm to FreddieMac
Yep. I'm from a small town in north LA.
A cop there was famous for messing with us teenagers and abusing his power. He approached me in Huddle House one evening and basically threatened me telling me to go home it was almost midnight... that nothing good happens late. I said yes sir and left.
I went home and told my parents about it.
They called the police department the next day.
His supervisor then told him to stop or he would be disciplined.
A cop there was famous for messing with us teenagers and abusing his power. He approached me in Huddle House one evening and basically threatened me telling me to go home it was almost midnight... that nothing good happens late. I said yes sir and left.
I went home and told my parents about it.
They called the police department the next day.
His supervisor then told him to stop or he would be disciplined.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:01 pm to zeebo
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
When I was 16, me and some buddies were going to take one our first unchaperoned road trips to NOLA and my father gave me the same talk: specifically as it relates to the New Orleans Police Department.
Paraphrasing but basically it was along the lines of do NOT frick with the NOLA PD
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:02 pm to zeebo
I didn't get that talk from Pops about cops but getting bounced and drug thru the rocks at 17 taught me a little bit.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:02 pm to zeebo
if you are resisting arrest and wind up dead from it,
it's mostly your fault.
it's mostly your fault.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:03 pm to zeebo
I never got a talk like that. I've also never once thought it'd be a good idea to be verbally or physically combative with a cop, regardless if he's wrong or not. How could I have possibly figured that out?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:03 pm to pwejr88
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And Chris Rock has a great skit on it.
Chris Rock - How not to get your arse kicked by the police!
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:03 pm to zeebo
I got the talk, but still pushed the limits. The only time I really had a problem was with some 5’6 hard arse with a flat top I kept calling Mam. He cuffed me and put me in the back of his car for buying beer with a fake ID. That’s what he said, anyway, but we all know it was because I embarrassed him in front of the women we were with.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:04 pm to zeebo
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Dad gave me the cop talk when I was 14 years old
My dad did also , his brother was a cop.
He said never run from or a fight a cop , you will never win.
I don't think that was taught in certain homes.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:05 pm to zeebo
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
Yes, no matter how wrong or right the police may be, you can always straighten it out later. That’s the beauty of due process.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:05 pm to zeebo
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
Yes, it does. Yes, the overwhelming majority of time but there are assholes out there.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:06 pm to zeebo
My dad's advice was much simpler:
'If a cop tells you to do something, do it. If you don't he will shoot you dead.'
That advice has worked very well for me.
'If a cop tells you to do something, do it. If you don't he will shoot you dead.'
That advice has worked very well for me.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:07 pm to zeebo
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Dad was a probation officer, as was his brother and two nephews. His father in law, my grandpa was a detective. I was about to get my driver’s license and he sat me down and said, “ I work with cops all the time and most of them are good people but every department has a few jerks that just like beating people up. Do what they ask
And don’t argue. If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.” Later when I was in my late teens he doubled down on this argument when he suspected we were going to The French Quarter. (We lived in the north shore)
My friend got his arm broke in the Quarter by a cop over nothing, well almost nothing. I guess his Dad didn’t give hhim m the talk.
Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
I got the exact same Dad talk. Therein lies the rub....a Dad talk.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to zeebo
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If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.
Hard to win in court given the immunities and biases within the system. Most prosecutors and judges may are no different than bad cops. It's a club and you ain't in it.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to DaTiger
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I got the exact same Dad talk. Therein lies the rub....a Dad talk.
ISWYDT
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to zeebo
In high school I was a passenger in my friend's truck while he was doing donuts in the grass at The Fly in New Orleans. NOPD pulled up, stopped him and pulled him out of the driver side of the truck. They beat the shite out of him but not too bad. Just punched him in the stomach a few times. I got out the truck and they threw me against the side of the truck.
After a bunch of yes sirs, no sirs, and saying sorry a bunch of times...they let us go with no ticket.
After a bunch of yes sirs, no sirs, and saying sorry a bunch of times...they let us go with no ticket.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to NineLineBind
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Yes, no matter how wrong or right the police may be, you can always straighten it out later. That’s the beauty of due process.
Unless you're in the militarily where just being booked, wrongfully or not, results in a GOMOR.
I had some a-hole cop in Thurston County triple the amount of my ticket because he saw my military ID, then snidely added, "thank you for your service".
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:09 pm to SCLibertarian
Don’t even have a chance at winning in court if you’re dead.
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