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Dad gave me the cop talk when I was 14 years old

Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by zeebo
Hammond
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:57 pm
Dad was a probation officer, as was his brother and two nephews. His father in law, my grandpa was a detective. I was about to get my driver’s license and he sat me down and said, “ I work with cops all the time and most of them are good people but every department has a few jerks that just like beating people up. Do what they ask
And don’t argue. If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.” Later when I was in my late teens he doubled down on this argument when he suspected we were going to The French Quarter. (We lived in the north shore)
My friend got his arm broke in the Quarter by a cop over nothing, well almost nothing. I guess his Dad didn’t give hhim m the talk.
Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:59 pm to
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?


Yes. And Chris Rock has a great skit on it.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20990 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 2:59 pm to
Great advice. Many cops want a reason to use their training.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:00 pm to
Yep. I'm from a small town in north LA.
A cop there was famous for messing with us teenagers and abusing his power. He approached me in Huddle House one evening and basically threatened me telling me to go home it was almost midnight... that nothing good happens late. I said yes sir and left.

I went home and told my parents about it.
They called the police department the next day.
His supervisor then told him to stop or he would be disciplined.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37615 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?


When I was 16, me and some buddies were going to take one our first unchaperoned road trips to NOLA and my father gave me the same talk: specifically as it relates to the New Orleans Police Department.

Paraphrasing but basically it was along the lines of do NOT frick with the NOLA PD
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7956 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:02 pm to
I didn't get that talk from Pops about cops but getting bounced and drug thru the rocks at 17 taught me a little bit.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67837 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:02 pm to
if you are resisting arrest and wind up dead from it,


it's mostly your fault.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20818 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:03 pm to
I never got a talk like that. I've also never once thought it'd be a good idea to be verbally or physically combative with a cop, regardless if he's wrong or not. How could I have possibly figured that out?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98930 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:03 pm to
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And Chris Rock has a great skit on it.


Chris Rock - How not to get your arse kicked by the police!
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:03 pm to
I got the talk, but still pushed the limits. The only time I really had a problem was with some 5’6 hard arse with a flat top I kept calling Mam. He cuffed me and put me in the back of his car for buying beer with a fake ID. That’s what he said, anyway, but we all know it was because I embarrassed him in front of the women we were with.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:04 pm to
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Dad gave me the cop talk when I was 14 years old



My dad did also , his brother was a cop.

He said never run from or a fight a cop , you will never win.

I don't think that was taught in certain homes.

This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6908 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:05 pm to
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?

Yes, no matter how wrong or right the police may be, you can always straighten it out later. That’s the beauty of due process.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19194 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:05 pm to
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Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?


Yes, it does. Yes, the overwhelming majority of time but there are assholes out there.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112456 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:06 pm to
My dad's advice was much simpler:
'If a cop tells you to do something, do it. If you don't he will shoot you dead.'
That advice has worked very well for me.
Posted by DaTiger
Some place warm....
Member since Jul 2005
1696 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Dad was a probation officer, as was his brother and two nephews. His father in law, my grandpa was a detective. I was about to get my driver’s license and he sat me down and said, “ I work with cops all the time and most of them are good people but every department has a few jerks that just like beating people up. Do what they ask
And don’t argue. If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.” Later when I was in my late teens he doubled down on this argument when he suspected we were going to The French Quarter. (We lived in the north shore)
My friend got his arm broke in the Quarter by a cop over nothing, well almost nothing. I guess his Dad didn’t give hhim m the talk.
Does this advice stand the test of time? For everyone?


I got the exact same Dad talk. Therein lies the rub....a Dad talk.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36016 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to
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If you are wronged we will deal with it later but you will not win an argument on the street.

Hard to win in court given the immunities and biases within the system. Most prosecutors and judges may are no different than bad cops. It's a club and you ain't in it.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19194 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

I got the exact same Dad talk. Therein lies the rub....a Dad talk.


ISWYDT

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118758 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to
In high school I was a passenger in my friend's truck while he was doing donuts in the grass at The Fly in New Orleans. NOPD pulled up, stopped him and pulled him out of the driver side of the truck. They beat the shite out of him but not too bad. Just punched him in the stomach a few times. I got out the truck and they threw me against the side of the truck.

After a bunch of yes sirs, no sirs, and saying sorry a bunch of times...they let us go with no ticket.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80096 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:08 pm to
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Yes, no matter how wrong or right the police may be, you can always straighten it out later. That’s the beauty of due process.


Unless you're in the militarily where just being booked, wrongfully or not, results in a GOMOR.

I had some a-hole cop in Thurston County triple the amount of my ticket because he saw my military ID, then snidely added, "thank you for your service".
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67075 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 3:09 pm to
Don’t even have a chance at winning in court if you’re dead.
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