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re: Curbing the AI Threat Requires Government Intervention Now, Not Later

Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3965 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:29 pm to
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The government is just as likely as anyone to use AI in nefarious ways against you. What on earth makes you think they would be an effective guardrail?


“But what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” - James Madison

It still baffles me how people think those in government are some benevolent creatures there to look out for us

While there are some of these men and women, they are in the VAST minority.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50157 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:30 pm to
The problem is almost never the latest technological innovation. It always comes down to people, and the motivation/agenda behind what they want to use the technology for.

I have no doubt that AI will be used in a positive way by many people. But, I have to admit that I'm also worried that unscrupulous people could use the same technology in nefarious ways and for reasons that won't exactly benefit people and society.

I'm admittedly no expert on AI, but do any of us really know where this is all headed?

Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5415 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:33 pm to
Yes, because the government is so damn good at regulation. How you folks can look at the government as a solution is beyond me.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173839 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:43 pm to
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What is the threat?

Mass job displacement. Already happening in the largest tech firms. Highly paid jobs are getting purged by the tens of thousands. You could argue they were all running heavy on personnel anyway and AI is just the reason for the purge

There are multiple reasons to be concerned with AI models becoming too powerful. They don't need to turn sentient or turn against humanity. They could do so in error.

We're integrating AI technologies into surveillance of citizens and killing machines. It doesn't take much imagination to see how this might be a problem.

The idea that there should be no guard rails placed on AI is pretty absurd. There are certain tools that are too powerful to be put into the hands of the general public for cyber security reasons. This has been acknowledged by big players on the AI industry like Anthropic who is thankfully self regulating and not releasing their mythos model for public use.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173839 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 10:45 pm to
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Yes, because the government is so damn good at regulation. How you folks can look at the government as a solution is beyond me

They're clearly good at some things. The idea that "the government sucks at everything" is juvenile.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20203 posts
Posted on 5/23/26 at 11:16 pm to
RELAX
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2991 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 6:46 am to
you're a genuine idiot boy, you should stick to reading homoerotic literature to your pretend wife and kids.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23842 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 8:25 am to
Its too late. Whatever happens will happen. There's no chance the US slows down AI development and allows China to "win", nor should we.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
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Posted on 5/24/26 at 8:36 am to
KCT, this guy has many videos on YouTube. He has Grok, Chat GPT, and Deepseek AI's set up on different platforms. He does real life experiments with them testing their pros and cons.

The best is he will jailbreak (remove programmed safety perimeters) the AI's and ask them "risk" questions which they respond to "honestly ".

It is scary. Anyone interested in AI potential negative outcomes should check them out. IMHO

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28196 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 9:37 am to
What is this doing that the industrial revolution didn't do?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50157 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 11:29 am to
Thanks, lake chuck. I'll check it out.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139190 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:11 pm to
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Higher taxes on capital and lower taxes on labor.

Details? Because, depending on your definition, it is not evident there is much room to lower taxes on labor. This is from the most recent IRS data I can find (tax year 2023):
• The Bottom 15% not only do not pay taxes, the IRS pays them.
• The bottom 50% of earners paid 3.3% of all federal income taxes\
• The top 25% were responsible for 86.3%.
• The top 10% accounted for 70.5%.
• The top 1% paid 38.4% of all taxes, nearly 2x their share of AGI.


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Public wage insurance, which smooths out falls in income after job losses as workers find better opportunities (and therefore eventually pays for itself).
Who pays, and how?
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Tax reforms to establish inheritance tax for the ultra wealthy to prevent the entrenchment of capital-owning elites (the true 1%).
Very little of "the true 1%" is "entrenched" money.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27733 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 12:12 pm to
Tech industry is using AI appropriately as they learn more and more. Will be harder for the younger generation to break in though. I’m in sales so continue to ride the wave.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23842 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Tech industry is using AI appropriately as they learn more and more. Will be harder for the younger generation to break in though. I’m in sales so continue to ride the wave.


No disrespect, but I think ur missing the point of the conversation. Or maybe it's just me!
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
27733 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:33 pm to
The industry will adapt as it always has. Remember when voip was going to cost millions their jobs. Same thing different verse. The strong will adapt. The rest will find something else
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10885 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Curbing the AI Threat Requires Government Intervention Now, Not Later


This is exactly what Communist China wants us to do. You are literally peddling a communist narrative.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8227 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 1:50 pm to
The economy didn't collapse when other notable inventions/processes became standard:

1) The assembly line
2) The IC engine (put a lot of wagon wheel makers out of business)
3) computers
4) the internet/internet sales
5) robotic manufacturing

I think so-called "AI" (which isn't really sentient or "intelligent" at all) will be another tool or process that is adopted but I don't think it will fundamentally change every person's work day to day.

In fact, I am more in the camp this is a bubble in the making, much like the dot com bust in the past.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22769 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:00 pm to
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The idea that there should be no guard rails placed on AI is pretty absurd.

You can argue this point but you're ignoring history. Not that there won't be major dislocations to employment and to how capital is deployed, but it's nothing we haven't dealt with before when balanced against the economy's ability to transform itself.

The point I'll argue is - even if you are right, and I'm confident you're not, but even if you were - I'd bet my life that any "solution" ginned up by government would cause a shite ton more harm than good. That's what government's do, and they're batting 1.000.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10885 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:02 pm to
The reason AI didn’t take off 3 years ago is because Biden and the dems were over regulating it.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26362 posts
Posted on 5/24/26 at 2:08 pm to
How dumb do you have to be to still believe More Government and More Taxes is a good thing?
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