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Cris Kyle, the American sniper
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:39 pm
I watched the movie just now and came away thinking America spent to many dollars and lives on an adventure in the Middle East . not just Iraq , but including Afghanistan, Libya , Yemen , syria , Iran etc.
Trump's presidency has removed our military presence deliberately with the understanding that attack on US interests will be met with overwhelming retribution.
the numbers of drone asasinations is many times smaller than Obama's legacy. perhaps that is the reason some of the military establishment do not like him.
the numbers of military bodies flown home for burial is far smaller than obamas legacy. perhaps that is the reason middle America does like Trump.
someday we may learn that the CIA effectiveness will be allowed to improve as its leader ship turns its attention outside the borders of the US to protect Americans . it has no business getting involved in the American political process.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:41 pm to Trevaylin
Did you know he was once on the Superdome roof?
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:42 pm to Trevaylin
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I watched the movie just now
So bad.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:43 pm to Trevaylin
America was committed to installing democracy in the Middle East when Obama took over. You can’t just shut down those supply chains and operations. Trump would have done no different.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:47 pm to The Third Leg
Under Trump...
ISIS gone,
Troop draw down overseas
Casualties and deaths of troops way down
Peace agreements up
Why didn’t Obama do this?
ISIS gone,
Troop draw down overseas
Casualties and deaths of troops way down
Peace agreements up
Why didn’t Obama do this?
Posted on 9/9/20 at 9:54 pm to Trevaylin
Trump is a fricking moron. At one point he was all about having the strongest military. Now he isn't as big on the military. He doesn't have a fricking plan, he just likes the idea he is commander in chief.
We have to protect our interest internationally.
Under Obama, the military had to fight ISIS which close to being defeated when he left office and then within a few months of his leaving they continued and finished the job.
Not to mention, Obama was in office for 8 years, Trump has been in office just under 4 years.
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with the understanding that attack on US interests will be met with overwhelming retribution.
We have to protect our interest internationally.
quote:
he numbers of drone asasinations is many times smaller than Obama's legacy. perhaps that is the reason some of the military establishment do not like him.
Under Obama, the military had to fight ISIS which close to being defeated when he left office and then within a few months of his leaving they continued and finished the job.
Not to mention, Obama was in office for 8 years, Trump has been in office just under 4 years.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:00 pm to OweO
quote:Shut the frick up you moron. You have no clue what the hell you are talking about. We are tired of fighting fricking worthless wars that achieve nothing.
OweO
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:03 pm to OweO
You stupid, wheeled frick. The military under Obama was gutted and our military neutered overseas. Trump within the first few months of being in office pulled back ridiculous regulations, reinstated desperately needed funding and training, while beginning the process of bringing our troops home. Doing all of this while taking on ISIS head on instead of trying to play both sides of the fence like your idiot black Jesus.
As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
As usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:05 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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ISIS gone,
Trump was in office when the US defeated ISIS, but most of the fighting was done under Obama. And I am not trying to make it sound like Obama is the main reason ISIS was defeated, etc, etc. I understand how it works, presidents have advisors and he made decisions based on the information he was given.
Just like Osama Bin Laden was killed under Obama. They started looking for him right after 911, they continued until they found him. Once Obama was informed and advised on the situation, he gave the go ahead to go in and kill him.
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Casualties and deaths of troops way down
Under Obama they were still fighting ISIS so of course more troops were killed.
But yeah, lets just give Trump all the credit and pretend he did something to keep the casualties down.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:10 pm to OweO
You’re an idiot. You told me so.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:10 pm to OweO
quote:
pretend he did something to keep the casualties down.
Nope. He didn’t do a thing to keep casualties down. You people are fricking weird.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:11 pm to OweO
quote:
Under Obama they were still fighting ISIS so of course more troops were killed.
Under Obama, either us or our "allies" were either directly or indirectly supporting ISIS. The situation was not improving and was completely intractable. That shite came to an end when Trump took over.
This post was edited on 9/9/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:12 pm to OweO
Why are you even here? The OT not giving you enough attention?
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:17 pm to OweO
quote:
Trump is a fricking moron. At one point he was all about having the strongest military. Now he isn't as big on the military. He doesn't have a fricking plan, he just likes the idea he is commander in chief.
You’re the idiot. Having the strongest military is t about fighting endless wars all over the world. It’s about having the right gear and training to project that force anywhere anytime and Trump has done a great job of that. Hell I just got off the phone with my spec ops son and he shot about $40K worth of ammo last night alone training. They have all the training budget they need to keep sharp, that wasn’t the case under Obama.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:20 pm to OweO
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But yeah, lets just give Trump all the credit and pretend he did something to keep the casualties down.
Could have just said OMB.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:21 pm to OweO
It's called ROE. Obama handcuffed our forces. That's why Isis was allowed to slaughter civilians. Trump turned the fighting men loose and they wrecked ISIS and Al Queda. Trump believes if you are gonna be in a war, finish it and come home. Your boy Hussein loved him some Arabs and didn't want to hurt feelings. Ask the guys at Benghazi who made it out alive.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:25 pm to OleWar
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Under Obama, either us or our "allies" were either directly or indirectly supporting ISIS. The situation was not improving and was completely intractable. That shite came to an end when Trump took over.
You people are unfrickingreal. I know the OT jokes about how bad you people are, but yall will literally defend Trump at all cost.
How many of you can honestly say you don't listen to pro trump radio personalities, watch pro trump news, etc? There is no way yall are as loyal as yall are without being fed this bullshite everyday.
Posted on 9/9/20 at 10:26 pm to OweO
No dumbass, unlike you some of us do this for a fricking living. And we are tired of idiots like you spewing fricking talking points. Go back to the OT with your stupidity. We are tired of fricking endless wars that do not advance the national interests. SHUT THE frick UP CHRIS.
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