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Could a generally unbiased news network be created?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:36 am
I realize that everything is subjective and there is no real objectivity in the world but I wonder if there is a format tht could be created to simply report the news without bias. Perhaps a network panel of three liberals, three conservatives, and 2 libertarians to pick stories and the presentation. Do you have any ideas better thn mine? Could this work?
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:37 am to DanTiger
That's not unbiased. It's just equally biased.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 10:38 am
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:39 am to DanTiger
It could if we followed the old rules of journalism and just reported the news. Then, you could have commentary shows here and there where different ideological views were presented.
It would require just reporting what has happened without commentary.
But, postmodern critical theory tells us that everything is subjective and everyone tells the story through their own perspective. It is better to be honest that you have a point of view than pretend that you don't. So, maybe not.
It would require just reporting what has happened without commentary.
But, postmodern critical theory tells us that everything is subjective and everyone tells the story through their own perspective. It is better to be honest that you have a point of view than pretend that you don't. So, maybe not.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:41 am to DanTiger
Cspan
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:43 am to DanTiger
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Could a generally unbiased news network be created?
Sure, but not a 24 hr one. You know how much time is spent on opinion filler and commentary on Fox news, MSNBC, and CNN?
You can only spend so much time with the 5 W's.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:45 am to AlaTiger
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It could if we followed the old rules of journalism and just reported the news. Then, you could have commentary shows here and there where different ideological views were presented.
Even just reporting the news has pitfalls. Whenever there is a shooting the channels will generally say an automatic weapon was used and show a picture of an ak or ar while the weapon was generally a cheap Larsen semi auto handgun. I am, admittedly, a gun rights advocate but this still seems like subtle misrepresentation to me. I am, of course, biased like every other human
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:49 am to elprez00
quote:I agree. The 24 hour news channels have killed the news business. People tune-in to certain channels for news but end up getting opinion pieces.
Sure, but not a 24 hr one. You know how much time is spent on opinion filler and commentary on Fox news, MSNBC, and CNN?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:51 am to dante
Al-jazeera
Russian TV (to a lesser extent)
Russian TV (to a lesser extent)
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:01 am to DanTiger
Simply presenting the news is boring and wouldn't get good ratings.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:07 am to DanTiger
Absolutely not. Rush examined an article by some guy the other day; touch on just this point.
The argument posited in the article was (paraphrased) that for a journalist to be unbiased, was in and of itself biased. Bias for just telling the Truth - with no regard for negative consequences - is considered a bias. Or worse, a form of bigotry.
The writer of that article was directing his essay at the Liberal mindset of what is an attempt to rationalize...lying. At least as I understood it. I thought about searching out the article and reading it; think it was wrote a few years back.
Bottom line. No. PBS was supposed to be the 'unbiased' and market (money) proof answer to market driven Media. And we all know how that turned out.
Truth will be realized...after the asskickin'.
The argument posited in the article was (paraphrased) that for a journalist to be unbiased, was in and of itself biased. Bias for just telling the Truth - with no regard for negative consequences - is considered a bias. Or worse, a form of bigotry.
The writer of that article was directing his essay at the Liberal mindset of what is an attempt to rationalize...lying. At least as I understood it. I thought about searching out the article and reading it; think it was wrote a few years back.
Bottom line. No. PBS was supposed to be the 'unbiased' and market (money) proof answer to market driven Media. And we all know how that turned out.
Truth will be realized...after the asskickin'.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:11 am to RCDfan1950
the consumer doesn't want news anymore. it wants affirmation. and the market obliges.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:16 am to DanTiger
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“Those who are capable of tyranny are capable of perjury to sustain it.” ? Lysander Spooner
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:19 am to Brosef Stalin
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Simply presenting the news is boring and wouldn't get good ratings
This. We want a certain amount of bias. We like being told what we think is correct.
At a minimum we want drama, and that requires a narrative. How do you do that without bias?
I mean, I am a political junkie, but CPAN bores me to tears 90% of the time.
That said, I think status quo could be better. The first step is admitting you have a problem.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:20 am to DanTiger
We should expect unbiased reporting during news broadcast and allow for biased opinions to be stated during panel discussion shows.
Its when bias enters into the news reporting portion that we have the option of enduring the bias or turning the crap off.
Its when bias enters into the news reporting portion that we have the option of enduring the bias or turning the crap off.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:21 am to AlaTiger
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It is better to be honest that you have a point of view than pretend that you don't
Like "fair and balanced" fox news
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:24 am to DanTiger
CSPAN is as close you get. Look, they air what's happening. IMO the market dictates that people want confirmation and opinion. They don't want to think for themselves. One of the other poster alluded to that.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:38 am to TheIndulger
Heck, I...'Fair and balanced' only in that the network offers rebuttal time to the Conservative opposition. The Network was formed to COUNTER and be the ONLY MSM Network that didn't tow the Liberal bias in what the report, and more importantly, what they don't/won't.
The old 'Hannity and Colmbes' show was indicative of the founding principle...but I reckon the market viewership got annoyed at Colmbes idealist diatribes, and spin/obfuscation. So they rejected Colmbs (his pov), in order to fill that important time with hammering the monopoly (Authoritarian Socialist) opposition. It worked great.
Just curious...I use the term 'Authoritarian Socialist' a lot, to describe what I view the Progressive movement to be; does anybody dispute or reject that descriptor as being accurate? Especially a Leftist? I reckon 'Fascist' (State control of private enterprise) might be more correct.
The old 'Hannity and Colmbes' show was indicative of the founding principle...but I reckon the market viewership got annoyed at Colmbes idealist diatribes, and spin/obfuscation. So they rejected Colmbs (his pov), in order to fill that important time with hammering the monopoly (Authoritarian Socialist) opposition. It worked great.
Just curious...I use the term 'Authoritarian Socialist' a lot, to describe what I view the Progressive movement to be; does anybody dispute or reject that descriptor as being accurate? Especially a Leftist? I reckon 'Fascist' (State control of private enterprise) might be more correct.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:41 am to DanTiger
I generally stick to BBC for most news coverage. Their coverage of American politics comes off as pretty unbiased, and their world news coverage is unmatched IMO.
As for American news outlets, it's near impossible to find one without an agenda, but Reuters is pretty good for print articles.
As for American news outlets, it's near impossible to find one without an agenda, but Reuters is pretty good for print articles.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:42 am to DanTiger
Watch BBC World News
Posted on 2/10/14 at 11:52 am to DanTiger
Who would you get to advertise during your time slot?
THAT'S where the bias would creep in - as it always does.
THAT'S where the bias would creep in - as it always does.
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