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re: **CORRECTION** 40% of people being admitted to UK hospitals for COVID-19 are vaccinated
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:28 am to Strannix
Posted on 7/20/21 at 7:28 am to Strannix
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The main issue here is all the true believers are tripling down on the untested unproven vaccine, they will never admit there are a myriad of sound logical scidntific reasons to NOT get or WAIT to get the shot.
This is a simple risk vs benefit evaluation.
Yup. Even if one believes the jab works, it doesn't make sense for 90-95% of the population to even look at it. There simply isn't a reason for healthy people to take the chance unless one is obese, and have multiple medical issues... desperation might force them to consider it as an option.
They're mad now because they took the jab and they want more members of their stupid club... which might not help at all.
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 7:29 am
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Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:18 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
This is a private medical decision, if it works then you're protected. But it doesn't work that's the problem
Posted on 7/20/21 at 8:29 am to TigerVespamon
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About 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are currently from unvaccinated people."
What an interesting way to say that 100 percent of the people hospitalized for Covid 19, were infected regardless of their vaccination status or not....
They need to quit calling this thing a vaccine and call it a Covid 19 symptom inhibitor. That is all it is doing when it "works".
This post was edited on 7/20/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:26 pm to BayouBengal51
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What an interesting way to say that 100 percent of the people hospitalized for Covid 19, were infected regardless of their vaccination status
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:32 pm to TigerVespamon
This whole frickin board right now.
Posted on 7/20/21 at 6:34 pm to TigerVespamon
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:37 pm to Big Scrub TX
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but I'm still waiting to learn of any actual downside to the vaccines.
huh… have you looked at VAERS?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:54 pm to Statestreet
quote:Tons of bullshite. Anyone can report some supposed event. With 163,000,000 people vaccinated, many of them elderly and unhealthy for a myriad of reasons, you would expect thousands of health events to occur in proximity to the time the vax was given. That would happen with or without a vaccine.
VAERS?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:55 pm to Strannix
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So its worse to be vaccinated
Depends on what vaccine it would appear
The 3 here are very beneficial
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:20 pm to Jake88
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That would happen with or without a vaccine.
So just conjecture? Quite the argument
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:27 pm to Padme
quote:That is exactly what many of the vaers reports are.
So just conjecture? Quite the argument
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:31 pm to Boring
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Semantics, but “double vaccinated” implies being fully vaccinated twice (4 total shots). These people got one vaccination in 2 parts, right?
You are correct generally, but have to take the language with some context. The UK started off giving as many people as possible one shot due to the initial supply crunch, and then coming back and doing a second round when the vaccine supply caught up. Theory was/is that everyone getting one shot was better on aggregate than half the pop getting both.
With that specific context in mind, the semantics of how it’s being presented to Brits makes a little more sense
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 6:46 pm to Jake88
Well with your logic you might say the majority of people that were said to have died from the chyna flu would have died anyway, with or without it, it works both ways
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:21 pm to the808bass
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Could be. Could be something else. We can’t know because no one will be honest.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:30 pm to jimmy the leg
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I do root for it.
As do I - they've given these various experimental cocktails to hundreds of millions of human beings and many of those are my fellow American citizens.
The "pandemic" is going to be largely gone in a few weeks, but its legacy will remain. We will be "testing" for COVID well into 2022 and when the Alpha Alpha strain starts spreading in Lichtenstein, it may make news in 2023 even.
But if these vaccines have long-term harmful effects - even on a few percent of recipients, then that is going to affect millions. And millions who had no idea about that risk and no way of weighing that risk versus the risk of contracting one of the many variants of COVID (which they may have/may yet contract, anyway).
A crazy time and with poor leadership across the board, I don't have any good advice to offer anyone other than to not feel pressured to make a risk decision you can't live with. Whether you think you need the vaccine or you don't, you're probably right. Each carries a largely unknown risk at this point.
The only silver lining is that the medical folks in the trenches learn more every day on how to combat it if you do contract one of the virus strains. If only the policy makers had it in them to be transparent about data - about what they know and don't know, folks would be more inclined to follow their recommendations.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:42 pm to Padme
quote:Yes. Correct.
Well with your logic you might say the majority of people that were said to have died from the chyna flu would have died anyway, with or without it, it works both ways
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:28 pm to Strannix
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So its worse to be vaccinated
You get Moron of the Night!
Almost everyone in the UK is vaccinated, including virtually all of the vulnerable. If the vaccine did no good whatsoever 98% of the people in hospitals would be vaccinated. Instead it’s only 40%. The vaccine is a miracle contraceptive.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:37 pm to tarzana
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And markets are tanking around the world as a result. Investors are screaming to the sky and literally renting their garments.
To whom?
Guys,
I’m a tried and true conservative. I laughed in the face of Covid, got it, and recovered easily as I knew I would. But I despair at the idiocy of many of you. The vaccine is clearly working. The analytical skills that led me to believe that covid was overblown have also led me to the conclusion that the vaccines (J&J, Moderna and Pfizer) are safe, effective at reducing the chance of infection, and effective at reducing the severity of symptoms.
It’s difficult to find a doctor who has not been vaccinated (Actually find one; not online). Trump led the vaccine development effort. He got vaccinated as soon as it was available. This is NOT a commie plot to sequester your bodily fluids. Jesus, is the small government cohort THIS stupid? If so there is no hope.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:45 pm to Penrod
quote:They aren't small government. They keep waiting for FDA full approval which is one if the reasons pharmaceuticals take so long and cost billions to bring to market. What you have to recall is Trump brought in many supporters who would best fit in with 1970s Democrats. People who are pro America but also pro government handouts directed towards them. Not really conservative.
. Jesus, is the small government cohort THIS stupid?
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:46 pm to TigerVespamon
But muh 97%.
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