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re: **CORRECTION** 40% of people being admitted to UK hospitals for COVID-19 are vaccinated
Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:57 pm to jimmy the leg
Posted on 7/19/21 at 6:57 pm to jimmy the leg
Here is what I don’t get about this board right now. Shouldnt every single person be rooting for the vaccine? Even those that don’t want to take it, assuming they aren’t complete pieces of shite, shouldn’t they want it to work?
This board seems to want it to fail, seems to want their neighbors to get sick from it. I honestly can’t comprehend being that eaten up inside
This board seems to want it to fail, seems to want their neighbors to get sick from it. I honestly can’t comprehend being that eaten up inside
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:00 pm to lsupride87
You get all riled upon this topic dont you 
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:00 pm to SDVTiger
I’m generally curious how one gets to the level that they actively cheer for the vaccine to be a failure
Last week we were rooting for birth defects on here
Last week we were rooting for birth defects on here
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:02 pm to tiggerthetooth
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This isn't true. Data shows being vaccinated is still better than not at all.
And what data is that? The data that said Ivermectin and HCQ were not effective?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:02 pm to lsupride87
I think you need to take a break
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:04 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Here is what I don’t get about this board right now. Shouldnt every single person be rooting for the vaccine? Even those that don’t want to take it, assuming they aren’t complete pieces of shite, shouldn’t they want it to work?
This board seems to want it to fail, seems to want their neighbors to get sick from it. I honestly can’t comprehend being that eaten up inside
I'd say that most of us want it to work, but that doesn't mean we want it forced upon us and our families before more is known about the side effects.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:06 pm to lsupride87
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Here is what I don’t get about this board right now. Shouldnt every single person be rooting for the vaccine? Even those that don’t want to take it, assuming they aren’t complete pieces of shite, shouldn’t they want it to work?
Is that different from your people wanting the unvaccinated to die?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:06 pm to lsupride87
Yeah
I don’t get it either. If the vaccines don’t work (and everything is showing that they actually do work). Then we will never go back to normalcy. We going to have to intermittent mask mandates and quarter full stadiums and forfeited football games and kids sitting at home doing nothing forever
I’m ok with people,who don’t get the vaccine but everything should be open. If you die or spend a month sick etc it’s on you. But no more lockdowns etc. these people have chosen this is what they want to do. They can live with it
I don’t get it either. If the vaccines don’t work (and everything is showing that they actually do work). Then we will never go back to normalcy. We going to have to intermittent mask mandates and quarter full stadiums and forfeited football games and kids sitting at home doing nothing forever
I’m ok with people,who don’t get the vaccine but everything should be open. If you die or spend a month sick etc it’s on you. But no more lockdowns etc. these people have chosen this is what they want to do. They can live with it
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:10 pm to the808bass
quote:I have been an active proponent in calling those people pieces of shite too
Is that different from your people wanting the unvaccinated to die
Congrats, y’all are both pieces of shot I guess?
Every American should be cheering for covid infected people to have a mild infection, regardless of vaccination status
Every American should be cheering for the vaccine to work
If you are not doing both of these things, and instead are hoping for poor outcomes in either of these scenarios, you are a sad soul consumed by anger
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:18 pm to lsupride87
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Here is what I don’t get about this board right now. Shouldnt every single person be rooting for the vaccine? Even those that don’t want to take it, assuming they aren’t complete pieces of shite, shouldn’t they want it to work?
I do root for it. I didn’t trust it to be as successful as it was originally touted because I don’t trust big pharma.
They have told us (repeatedly) that the efficacy was 90+ % (94 iirc). It is 60.
It is simply one more instance where their trust was not warranted.
Is it better, yes. Am I still pulling for it to live up to its billing, yes. Based on history and common sense, however, I I knew better than to believe them.
Lastly, my frustration comes from how easily people became pharmaceutical sales reps.
Suddenly any questioning of the vaccine was met with ridicule and condescension. Simple questions were not only unanswered, but were either dismissed, or led to bans.
So no offense, what you see as my ilk spiking the football is actually just us celebrating people coming to grips with reality.
The vaccine, as wondrous as it may be, is not a panacea.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:19 pm to Boring
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Oh also, if the vaccine doesn’t work against COVID then what exactly does it do?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:22 pm to TigerVespamon
What
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:24 pm to TigerVespamon
This world is sooo screwed.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:30 pm to TigerVespamon
This is a case that you can make the stats read what you want.
The majority of cases are with people less than 50, the majority of deaths are people over 50. Unvaccinated stats are roughly 50/50. 60/40, 40/60 depending on stat you pick, not worth arguing.
The telling stat is in Jan, 2021 the new case 7 day average was 60k with 1300 deaths. Today, the new case 7 day average is 45k and rapidly rising but deaths are at 40 and only slightly creeping up.
Something is working.
My personal opinion is it is a combination of everything.
Vaccines are certainly helping the older people.
vaccinates are helping younger people
Unvaccinated people that had it previously are helped.
Unvaccinated people that didn't know they previously had it are help.
People are still somewhat socially distancing and staying home from work.
At this point, it's more hype. If you are scared of it, get a vaccine, if not don't worry about it.
The majority of cases are with people less than 50, the majority of deaths are people over 50. Unvaccinated stats are roughly 50/50. 60/40, 40/60 depending on stat you pick, not worth arguing.
The telling stat is in Jan, 2021 the new case 7 day average was 60k with 1300 deaths. Today, the new case 7 day average is 45k and rapidly rising but deaths are at 40 and only slightly creeping up.
Something is working.
My personal opinion is it is a combination of everything.
Vaccines are certainly helping the older people.
vaccinates are helping younger people
Unvaccinated people that had it previously are helped.
Unvaccinated people that didn't know they previously had it are help.
People are still somewhat socially distancing and staying home from work.
At this point, it's more hype. If you are scared of it, get a vaccine, if not don't worry about it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:33 pm to TigerVespamon
Hey OP you need to edit your post because the story has changed.
Hope you antivax nutjobs had fun while you could.
quote:OP's own darn link
Britain's Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance said that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 are unvaccinated, correcting an earlier statement he made on Monday.
Vallance earlier said at a news conference with Prime Minister Boris Johnson that 60% of people being admitted to hospital with COVID-19 have had two doses of vaccine.
"Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference," Vallance said on Twitter. "About 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from COVID are currently from unvaccinated people."
Hope you antivax nutjobs had fun while you could.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:33 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:
This isn't true. Data shows being vaccinated is still better than not at all.
Whew boy!!! This sounded desperate as frick!
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:36 pm to lsupride87
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I’m generally curious how one gets to the level that they actively cheer for the vaccine to be a failure
Last week we were rooting for birth defects on here
Because things don't add up.
If the vaccine works than all this strange push shouldn't be there. Why are people wearing masks and social distancing, and lockdowns still?
According to all those "experts", all of this was over last year.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:36 pm to WeeWee
quote:
OP's own darn link
Hope you antivax nutjobs had fun while you could.
You know either number if remotely true would be terrible ineffective, right?
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:44 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
9% of a population making up 60% of the hospitalizations
If you think this is bad for the vaccine, I don’t ever want to hear you say shite about 13% of the population being most of the criminals.
If you think this is bad for the vaccine, I don’t ever want to hear you say shite about 13% of the population being most of the criminals.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:45 pm to TerryDawg03
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So the vaccine is apparently still 40% ineffective? Not much better.
but it is still better.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 7:49 pm
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