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Contrary to Barr's view, DoJ issues Obstruction indictment w/o underlying crime
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:53 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:53 am
So Barr's own DoJ just destroy's Barr's view that you can't charge someone with Obstruction if you don't charge an underlying crime:
LINK
LINK
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ALEXANDRIA, Va. – A Virginia man who previously served as a linguist for the FBI was arrested Saturday night on charges of obstructing a federal investigation and making multiple false statements to FBI officials.
According to court documents, Abdirizak Jaji Raghe Wehelie, aka Haji Raghe, 66, of Burke, was a federal contractor for the FBI and worked as a linguist translating communications captured by court-authorized surveillance of a suspect (Person A) in a terrorism investigation. Wehelie allegedly intentionally misidentified his own voice that was captured when Person A left a voicemail message on Wehelie’s mobile telephone. When questioned by FBI investigators about this particular incident, Wehelie made several misleading and/or false statements.
Wehelie is scheduled to make his initial appearance in federal court in Alexandria today at 10:00 a.m.
Wehelie is charged with making false statements to government officials and obstruction of a federal investigation.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:56 am to tigerinDC09
Got him now! It's HER TURN. Checkmate, Drumpf
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:57 am to tigerinDC09
Don’t be depressed, man. You’ll get that orange man soon enough.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:57 am to tigerinDC09
So is this the new DU talking point?
Muh protectionist!
Muh protectionist!
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 6:58 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:01 am to tigerinDC09
I see you missed Barr's testimony & the word "usually"
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:02 am to Paradiddler
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I see you missed Barr's testimony & the word "usually"
can you provide a link to that?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:03 am to tigerinDC09
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Person A, according to prosecutors, was suspected of "having conspired with and aided and abetted" someone who traveled to Somalia to join Al Shabaab, an al Qaeda-affiliated terror group. The latter person was on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists List, according to the indictment.
quote:Uuummmmm.... kind of sounds like there was an underlying crime
When interviewed in 2016, Wehelie told FBI agents he was "surprised" that the person was a surveillance target, but he admitted in the interview he was aware of an FBI search of the person's home weeks prior to the voicemail.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:05 am to tigerinDC09
Making false statements to the FBI is an underlying crime and in and of itself is the basis for an obstruction charge - you stupid f*ck.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:07 am to tigerinDC09
That isn't Barr's view at all. He acknowledged that an underlying crime isn't required. He just said it makes it awfully hard to prove intent....which it does. It's a factor to be considered among others. Your first sentence is absolutely false....and typical of how dems spew falsehoods as facts (i.e. Barr lied to Congress.)
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:07 am to funnystuff
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Uuummmmm.... kind of sounds like there was an underlying crime
Sounds like, and charged with are two different things.
What is the underlying crime that Haji Raghe is CHARGED with? That's the predicate for Barr's rationale for not prosecuting Trump for Obstruction. Can't you just admit that it's inconsistent prosecution?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:08 am to MMauler
Look how far Democrat’s have fallen.
2 years of bullshite Russian conspiracy theories and this is all they have left.
Quite bizarre how deranged
2 years of bullshite Russian conspiracy theories and this is all they have left.
Quite bizarre how deranged
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:08 am to MMauler
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Making false statements to the FBI is an underlying crime and in and of itself is the basis for an obstruction charge - you stupid f*ck.
So you just proved why Trump committed obstruction... Here's why.
Flynn made false statements. Trump obstructed the investigation into Flynn's false statements.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:09 am to tigerinDC09
His son/sons left for ME to join terrorist group. He then lied about his communication with them and his knowledge of their location.
Sounds like obstruction to me.
Sounds like obstruction to me.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:09 am to rumproast
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That isn't Barr's view at all. He acknowledged that an underlying crime isn't required. He just said it makes it awfully hard to prove intent....which it does. It's a factor to be considered among others. Your first sentence is absolutely false....and typical of how dems spew falsehoods as facts (i.e. Barr lied to Congress.)
Link to where he says what you assert here.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:10 am to tigerinDC09
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Contrary to
your 'Subject' comprehension escapes you
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:11 am to tigerinDC09
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Abdirizak Jaji Raghe Wehelie, aka Haji Raghe
Yikes.
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Wehelie allegedly intentionally misidentified his own voice that was captured when Person A left a voicemail message on Wehelie’s mobile telephone. When questioned by FBI investigators about this particular incident, Wehelie made several misleading and/or false statements.
You don't see any problems here? Or any underlying crimes?
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 7:14 am
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:11 am to tigerinDC09
This guy is charged with an underlying crime - making false statements to investigators.
Barr also said there “could be” underlying obstruction charges on a standalone basis but the bar for such charges is not just because you don’t like the subject of the investigation.
Barr also said there “could be” underlying obstruction charges on a standalone basis but the bar for such charges is not just because you don’t like the subject of the investigation.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:11 am to AllemanWC
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His son/sons left for ME to join terrorist group. He then lied about his communication with them and his knowledge of their location.
Sounds like obstruction to me.
Correct. So how is ordering the top investigator into Flynn (who lied to the FBI), to "let it go", not Obstruction?
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:11 am to tigerinDC09
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tigerinDC09
Your IQ is so low
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:12 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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This guy is charged with an underlying crime - making false statements to investigators.
Barr also said there “could be” underlying obstruction charges on a standalone basis but the bar for such charges is not just because you don’t like the subject of the investigation.
Trump is named as an unindicted co-conspirator in a federal election crime. There's one underlying crime for you.
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