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Conservative messaging needs to change

Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8827 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:19 pm
As we know the other side loves to use emotion to control the debate, and say the right lacks compassion. There needs to be a major marketing campaign to show otherwise.

How is outsourcing all of our manufacturing to a slave state (China), so that we can have cheap imported goods that we have no sense of connection too compassionate?

How is an open border policy that allows child sex trafficking to flow into our country compassionate?

How is not allowing minorities access to better schools with school choice not compassionate?

How is allowing fentanyl and opiates to flood into impoverished urban and rural communities compassionate?

How is defending the police and leaving people in bad neighborhoods with no protection and to be terrorized by violent gangs compassionate?

How is promoting the slaughter of millions of black babies every year compassionate?
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
2504 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:21 pm to
Conservatism is dead
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8827 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Conservatism is dead


You say that, but when ever I talk to a black or Hispanic person, they are basically conservative and don't know it. They usually have similar values, but vote Democrat because they are told they support them more than Republicans.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:24 pm to
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How is outsourcing all of our manufacturing to a slave state (China), so that we can have cheap imported goods that we have no sense of connection too compassionate?


Alright. Let's start here. How do we make this specific point a winning message?
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34653 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:25 pm to
Unless the media is destroyed and rebuilt it doesn’t matter what the message is it’ll never get across
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67689 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:27 pm to
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use emotion


This is why memes work so well for conservative messaging.


Posted by Tigers1984
Slidell
Member since Sep 2020
1688 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:27 pm to
All moot points when the enemy owns the media and controls the flow of information

Conservatives have OANN and Gab... that’s about it.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Conservatism is dead


Good. Libertarianism is dead too.

Praise the Lord!
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:31 pm to
China...slave state...Uighurs...factories...low budget government provided housing...

This should be easy.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12832 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:32 pm to
Messaging is irrelevant when the democrat party essentially has its own PR firm in the news media.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
4935 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:32 pm to
Marketing is no help without a voice.

There is little/no conservative media. Fox is pure GOPe, and Rush has passed away without a clear handoff to Mark Steyn.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:33 pm to
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Messaging is irrelevant when the democrat party essentially has its own PR firm in the news media.


Do it the old fashioned way, in person.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5292 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:42 pm to
Logical decisions are usually opposed by emotional responses. The left only knows emotions. Conservatives are willing to weigh the pros and cons of each decision and live with the collateral damage if there is any.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8827 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Do it the old fashioned way, in person


Exactly go visit a black church. Get in the middle of a college campus with a bullhorn. Print a newspaper or book,, and put it in every mailbox on your town.. Thomas Paine did this 250 years ago why not now?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8831 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:45 pm to
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Conservative messaging needs to change


No it doesn't.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6065 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:50 pm to
Messaging means zero when elections can be stolen and laws support the heist.

Trumps messaging worked to the tune of 80+million votes ...how’d that work out?
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:56 pm to
If anyone wants to know why conservatism is losing, read the comments on this page. What a bunch of whiney crybabies rolling in their own self pity.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 12:57 pm to
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How is outsourcing all of our manufacturing to a slave state (China), so that we can have cheap imported goods that we have no sense of connection too compassionate?

While I agree with you, historically the opponents of doing this have been unions (Democrats).

Do you think your local conservative business owner who still flies a Trump 2020 flag is willing to sacrifice a single penny in profit by turning his back on China?

NO.

It’s nit the message that need to change, it’s that pressure needs to be put on local conservatives who embrace illegal labor and Chinese B.S.

Even the consumers will howl when prices rise. Magician2 made a very good post that things won’t change because conservatives are selfish penny-pinchers (that’s a paraphrase).
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24680 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 1:18 pm to
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You say that, but when ever I talk to a black or Hispanic person, they are basically conservative and don't know it. They usually have similar values, but vote Democrat because they are told they support them more than Republicans.

100% truth. I closely work (and am good friends with) 4 black guys.

You talk to them and they believe in faith, the second amendment, personal liberty, free speech and hate what happens in liberal cities.

Yet they vote exclusively straight ticket Democrat, period.

Ask them, every single one, why they continue to vote for the policies that hurt them, and their answer?...

"I was taught to respect my mom and dad and do the things they did. I won't disrespect them by voting for racists."

It's impossible to break that barrier when the groupthink is that prominent and widespread. This is decades of programming, gaslighting and indoctrination we're dealing with.
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