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Commie-fornia legalized Drugs. Guess what happened?

Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5548 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:57 pm
We hear about the law of unintended consequences.

Welp, this is a major example of what happens:

California Legalized Drugs. Cartels Took It Over.


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Six years after California legalized marijuana, the bodies keep piling up. Earlier this year, six men were murdered in the Mojave Desert. Four of the men had been burned after being shot with rifles. In 2020, seven people were killed at an illegal pot operation in Riverside County.

Violence like this was supposed to disappear after legalization. Legalization advocates argued that making the drug trade legal would end the grip of the cartels. Instead, the legal market has failed, and the cartels are taking over sizable parts of California and the rest of the country.

California's legal drug revenues have fallen consistently, as have those in other legal drug states including Colorado, whose model helped sell the idea that drug money would fix everything.

Despite falling revenues, Colorado legislators brag about $282 million in drug revenue. That number may sound high, but it's a drop in the bucket considering the money that the state and cities like Denver are spending on homelessness, drug overdoses and law enforcement.


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Cartels and gang members dominate the business. And open borders allowed them to bring massive numbers of laborers to boost their ranks. Not only California, but places as far afield as Maine that have large open areas and limited law enforcement resources, have been overrun by drug operations that more closely resemble parts of Latin America and Asia than the USA.

The coasts, from Southern California up to Oregon, are controlled by Mexican cartels which have expanded so much that they're running short of workers even during the Biden open borders boom. Some have taken to brazenly advertising for illegal workers in Europe.



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Many cities, ie San Francisco chief among them, have turned into slums and shanty towns.

I remember many of the threads on both the PT and OT saying that this was going to take the 'profit' out of the illegal drug markets.

Only thing it has done is embolden the drug cartels, organized crime and gang violence.

Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:17 pm to
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Not only California, but places as far afield as Maine that have large open areas and limited law enforcement resources, have been overrun by drug operations that more closely resemble parts of Latin America and Asia than the USA.


This wouldn't happen if we had an fbi like the one that went after the mafia back in the day, instead of going after political rivals and PTA meetings. Defund them already.
Posted by Beauregard96
Hopped up on goof balls
Member since Nov 2006
2609 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:29 pm to
Weed is far cheaper on the streets in many cases because states tax the hell out of it
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5548 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:11 pm to
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This wouldn't happen if we had an fbi like the one that went after the mafia back in the day, instead of going after political rivals and PTA meetings. Defund them already.


If the filthy swamp rats don't cheat us again, and if DJT says he is gonna do what he says, go after this scum with a vengeance.

Declare these cartels, gangs, drug runners international terrorists and let the hammer down on them.

Inform all the narco states that they have 5 days to turn in, and/or over the cartels, drug gangs... or we start sending in Warthogs, AC130s, Delta Force...we freeze all money remittances to countries like Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela...
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157962 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:19 pm to
California is going to end up with the cartels killing local politicians.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5548 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Weed is far cheaper on the streets in many cases because states tax the hell out of it


What's the answer? IDK

Quit taxing the fire out weed? Make it cheap?

Take the profit out of it for the cartels, gangs...perhaps let the locals have their own little pot gardens.

I do believe we allow individuals to brew their own beer, wine, and distilled spirits as long as they don't sell it.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42088 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:28 pm to
Cali fricked up by over taxing and over regulating the legal weed industry
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:30 pm to
Are they legalizing then regulating and taxing it so that prices are too high? I mean, that is precisely what I would expect from CA.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70529 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:38 pm to
People will pay a premium for legal weed over illegal weed, but they won’t pay 3-5x the cost. California demonstrated that overtaxing a product can create a black market just as easily as outright banning it.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3701 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:43 pm to
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Commie-fornia legalized Drugs. Guess what happened?

It’s overly-regulated, overly-taxed, and still federally-illegal so it’s difficult to transfer payments except for cash.

They aren’t doing it right. Creating sin taxes and too much paperwork and red tape opens the door for the mafia and cartels.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65544 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:22 pm to
It's also a smooth way to take people's guns.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
3252 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Commie-fornia legalized Drugs. Guess what happened?
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Inform all the narco states that they have 5 days to turn in, and/or over the cartels, drug gangs... or we start sending in Warthogs, AC130s, Delta Force...we freeze all money remittances to countries like Mexico, Brazil, Venezuela...

Though I agree, there will need to be a solid plan to counter their attacks. Essentially the Democrats invited 80s style Colombia to the US.

Citizens will need to be careful and unfortunately the Media won't help.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 7:28 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47211 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:32 pm to
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Weed is far cheaper on the streets in many cases because states tax the hell out of it



Teenage Kaiju emphatically supported exactly this. Because at the time, I knew it likely would never happen, but it would be a tax on stupid.

Then I realized that in fact, taxation is theft, and even if I don't partake of something myself, the government has no real right to deny people using weed or taxing it excessively.

Despite going to gov schools, I didn't end up being a fan of the collective gov hivemind.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2523 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:05 pm to
Potheads are so stupid they advocated legalizing it and taxing it as if the criminals would voluntarily go legit and give the govt a piece of their pie. Why the frick would the criminals do that?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11389 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:34 pm to
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Cartels and gang members dominate the business. And open borders allowed them to bring massive numbers of laborers to boost their ranks. Not only California, but places as far afield as Maine that have large open areas and limited law enforcement resources, have been overrun by drug operations that more closely resemble parts of Latin America and Asia than the USA.


The problem is open borders more than legalized drugs. If the problem was caused by lax drug laws in California, the problem would not manifest on the other side of the country.

States also overregulate the legal weed industry making it difficult to compete with street prices. With multiple states keeping weed illegal, legal producers are unable to grow and capitalize on economies of scale.

Only weed is legal, so the cartels still have a network for all the other drugs which will just naturally bleed over into weed. Why would you buy legal weed from a store when you can buy it at the same time you buy your pills or meth?

Law enforcement is not prosecuting crimes like they should which worsens the impact of legal weed. The areas you are looking at have increased crime rates because they refuse to prosecute crimes. It breeds a culture.

What we have are half-assed attempts to make weed legal without any consideration for how to handle related issues and a massive failure by the federal government to protect our borders. It's set up to fail through terrible implementation.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5548 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

It’s overly-regulated, overly-taxed, and still federally-illegal so it’s difficult to transfer payments except for cash. They aren’t doing it right. Creating sin taxes and too much paperwork and red tape opens the door for the mafia and cartels.


I am going to go off into the weeds a little here but stay with me. It all pertains to this OP.

Here is the kicker. For the most part, our government(s) do not want to solve problems.

They sewer rats(federal, state and even local) want to keep the general populace dumb, uninformed, fat and 'happy'.

Its the old Bread-and-Circus bit that has been in play for thousands of years as long as there has been some form of government.

The powers know how to solve this crap. They know how to fix a lot of issues, its just they do not want to.
Why?

Because it keeps the general public dependent on them.

This why the marxist left hates us and folks like DJT.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8690 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:53 pm to
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California is going to end up with the cartels killing local politicians.

I'm figuring the first poli whacked will be in Arizona.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:59 pm to
You cowards have the 2nd Amendment but refuse to use it. You want a nanny state and big police force to do your bidding. Meanwhile the destruction continues.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 9:08 pm to
Chestersons Fence
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21454 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 10:14 pm to
Just remember kids all of those dumb rube grand fathers and great grand fathers that weren’t sophisticated enough to know what they were doing when it came to shite like this, knew exactly what they were doing. Your grand daddies and your great grand daddies knew the consequences or allowing human nature and depravity to run wild.
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