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Colorado House passes bill to ban sale, purchase of “assault weapons”

Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:32 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:32 pm



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The Colorado House of Representatives on Sunday passed a bill that would ban the purchase, sale and transfer of a broad swath of semiautomatic firearms, defined in the measure as assault weapons. The legislation now faces an uncertain fate in the Senate.

House Bill 1292 passed 35-27, mostly along party lines, with three representatives excused.

Republicans in the chamber voted uniformly against the measure. They were joined by nine Democrats, mostly from swing districts, including Reps. Meghan Lukens of Steamboat Springs, Marc Snyder of Manitou Springs, Bob Marshall of Highlands Ranch and Mary Young of Greeley.

Republicans argued during roughly four hours of debate during a rare Sunday workday at the Capitol that the measure would violate the Second Amendment and that it wouldn’t address the societal causes of mass shootings, like mental health.

“This bill does not address the real issues that we have in our state,” said Rep. Lisa Frizell, a Castle Rock Republican. “It does nothing.”

Democrats said it was a step toward addressing a uniquely American problem, invoking the massacres in Littleton, at Columbine High School; in Aurora, at the Century 16 movie theater; and in Boulder, at the King Sooper’s grocery story in the city’s Table Mesa Neighborhood.

“I don’t believe this bill is going to stop all gun violence,” said Rep. Jennifer Bacon, a Denver Democrat. “I don’t believe this bill is going to stop all the crime. But I do believe this bill will help if we also are willing to talk about why people don’t value each other’s lives, how we can talk to young people about trying to solve problems in different ways.”

The bill now heads to the Senate, where it’s unclear if it has enough support to advance to be sent to Gov. Jared Polis’ desk.

Democrats have a 23-12 majority in the Senate, but the chamber is considered far more moderate than the House. The measure didn’t have a main sponsor in the Senate until recently, when Sen. Julie Gonzales, a Denver Democrat, agreed to try to shepherd the legislation forward.

Senate President Steve Fenberg, D-Boulder, told The Sun he would vote for a bill banning so-called assault weapons if given the chance. But he doubts the measure will have enough votes to clear the Senate.

“These aren’t my reservations necessarily. (But) it’s difficult, as we’ve seen, to have effective gun violence prevention policies on a state level,” Fenberg said. “Obviously I’m not saying ‘let’s not do anything at the state level, let’s pass it to the feds,’ because we know they’re not going to do anything. But I do think there are legitimate conversations about promising something big to society, knowing that the policy in and of itself isn’t going to produce all those results.”

Fenberg said he hopes the measure would save lives if it passes and is signed into law — which appears improbable — “but I also think we know there’s a lot of assault weapons already out there in people’s hands.”

House Bill 1292 doesn’t ban possession of so-called assault weapons, so it wouldn’t reduce the number of guns Coloradans already own.

Fenberg said the majority of his caucus believes “that we shouldn’t have assault weapons out there in the hands of so many people.” But he doesn’t know if that translates to the policy getting across the finish line.

“People who want to do harm are probably still going to be able to find ways to do harm,” Fenberg said. “So I think it’s more nuanced than just simply: Do we have 18 votes to pass an assault weapon bill?”

If the bill — a similar version of which failed in the House last year — somehow does pass the Senate, it will be sent to a skeptical Polis.

“I’ve long been skeptical of discussions around ‘this kind of equipment versus that kind of equipment,’” the Democrat told The Sun in an interview earlier this month. “I think it’s more an issue of making sure our gun safety laws are followed. I think where you can and can’t safely carry guns is a legitimate discussion, as well as making sure that our strong gun laws are enforced.”



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1. These dumbasses have no idea what an assault weapon is nor the fact that something like a Ruger Mini-14 is the same as an AR-15 just way less scary looking
2. Shall not be infringed is pretty clear
3. I guess they forget they tried this in 1994 and it didn't work out
4. I hope they push so far that it goes to the SC and we even see a rebuke of the 1986 full auto ban BS
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 8:33 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:33 pm to
This will def go to S Ct and be declared unconstitutional.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:35 pm to
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This will def go to S Ct and be declared unconstitutional.


I don’t think that is really in question.

I think the question is “How much would the court do in setting new precedent if it falls in their laps?”
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5170 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:39 pm to
Everything, literally everything can be considered an “assault weapon”.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:41 pm to
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I think the question is “How much would the court do in setting new precedent if it falls in their laps?”


Which is why I said I hope they F around and even get the 1986 law reversed
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:42 pm to
I don’t think you will have much new precedent to set. The jurisprudence to date is clear and this law is in the wrong side of it.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8496 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:49 pm to
What amazes me is how they talk about the mass shootings at schools that generally are comprised of people whose decisions typically do not cause societal harm.

Yet, in the halls of almost all other governmental agencies, most known for decisions causing negative societal issues, divisiveness, and harm I do not believe there has been a mass shooting.

Why is that I must wonder?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3087 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 8:59 pm to
The Supreme Court will be like... "Colorado... y'all here again?" and then, eventually:

This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 9:03 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:00 pm to
Those who cannot remember the past....
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 9:01 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24959 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:46 pm to
Pistols are used in more mass shootings than ARs.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19353 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:56 pm to
Magpul was at one time headquartered in Colorado

They moved a few years ago due to shite like this
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 9:57 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10960 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:10 pm to
Unconstitutional but I'm sure some legal scholar will come around to tell me and others that we don't understand the law.
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
2442 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

“I don’t believe this bill is going to stop all gun violence,” said Rep. Jennifer Bacon, a Denver Democrat. “I don’t believe this bill is going to stop all the crime. But I do believe this bill will help if we also are willing to talk about why people don’t value each other’s lives, how we can talk to young people about trying to solve problems in different ways.


This is a comment straight out of 1984. Wordspeak at its finest.

I would kindly ask Ms.Bacon how many gun deaths are suicides rather than used in murders.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:40 pm to
Liberal imports to the Front Range are ruining that state.

So much so, "Colorado Native" is a huge meme.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5971 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

I don’t believe this bill is going to stop all the crime. But I do believe this bill will help if we also are willing to talk about why people don’t value each other’s lives, how we can talk to young people about trying to solve problems in different ways.


is she saying that this won't do anything UNLESS we do all the other stuff we won't do to address the underlying issues? she can't be saying that, right? RIGHT?!?!
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11155 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:55 pm to
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“This bill does not address the real issues that we have in our state,” said Rep. Lisa Frizell, a Castle Rock Republican. “It does nothing.”

Lisa has some common sense.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68467 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:10 am to
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This will def go to S Ct and be declared unconstitutional.



So democrats know this but want to shite all over their citizens anyway?



Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15488 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:22 am to
What part of shall not be infringed don't they understand?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260167 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 7:59 am to
quote:

The Colorado House of Representatives on Sunday passed a bill that would ban the purchase, sale and transfer of a broad swath of semiautomatic firearms,



Hate to say it, but CO has gone to shite since the legalized weed. Being an early adopter meant ne-er do wells moving to Colorado.

Seems it attracted too many far leftists.

Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19605 posts
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:02 am to
Correct
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