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re: COL MacGregor on Patrick Bet David

Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16154 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:40 pm to
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You need to keep up.


Putin is going to take Warsaw, then Paris, and then San Antonio!!! He must be stopped at all Cost!

-the extremely stupid OT.

Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:46 pm to
MacGregor DR, Putin sycophant, been wrong about everything since the 72 hour operation began.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41745 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:48 pm to
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Putin is going to take Warsaw, then Paris, and then San Antonio!!! He must be stopped at all Cost! -the extremely stupid OT.


You have information I don’t have. Got a link? Where did you hear all that?

Or did you just make that up all by yourself?
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 4:50 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162502 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:50 pm to
found it.

LINK
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53693 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 4:56 pm to
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You need to keep up. Six weeks, months ago, it was going to be all over.


MacGregor said the Ukraine/Russia shot show was going to be over in 6 weeks? If he said that he was wrong, he probably underestimated how much support (over $100 billion) Ukraine was going to get from the US. He's not wrong about Ukraine having no chance of defeating Russia without ground troops from NATO/US.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4003 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 5:11 pm to
I will take anything by col McGregor than anything david betrayus has to say.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19409 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 5:29 pm to
It seems like a lot of what he is saying the almost the direct opposite of what’s being reported in the news. I’ll give a couple of examples:
-Putin was/is showing restraint as it comes to civilian Ukrainian casualties
-Russia’s military technology is impressive and effective.
-Ukraine basically has nothing left militarily.
*I’m still listening to it now. I’m sure they go into more detail on a range of topics.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 5:34 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11423 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 5:37 pm to
He's basically giving Russian MoD talking points for a western audience.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19409 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 5:39 pm to
What’s his motivation for doing that? Do you think he genuinely believes what he is saying, but is just wrong? Or are his motives nefarious?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40232 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 5:44 pm to
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MacGregor said the Ukraine/Russia shot show was going to be over in 6 weeks? If he said that he was wrong, he probably underestimated how much support (over $100 billion) Ukraine was going to get from the US.


He predicted it would be over in 6 weeks almost a year into the war.


He just has no idea what he’s talking about.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19409 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 5:53 pm to
He makes a point about our military readiness, which I definitely have concerns about. He basically makes a case the Russians would decimate us in a conventional war, he even throws in a comment about their submarine fleet wiping us out in the water. My guess is the truth is probably in the middle. Our readiness isn’t where it should be, but not as bad as what he is claiming. What do you think?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66548 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:03 pm to
The guy who runs this site is former Soviet navy. He trashes American military readiness, in large part because he thinks they just do not have the factories to generate the equipment needed. He seems to think the U.S. has a lot of cute, expensive weapons, but couldn't generate the artillery that Russia can for a grinding land war. That makes sense to me. Where I don't know if he is full of shite is as far as air defense. He claims Russia would be knocking planes out of the sky if the U.S. got involved in Ukraine. The one aspect of the U.S. military he respects is the navy.
LINK

He was on podcast today with former CIA officers Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31681 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

He was on podcast today with former CIA officers Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern.


I think these guys are paid. If not there's a very curious relationship with Russia.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3751 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

I think these guys are paid. If not there's a very curious relationship with Russia.


And you have a mighty curious relationship with reality.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31681 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:09 pm to
Why does McGovern speak on behalf of Russia at the UN?

What's the relationship there?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66548 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:12 pm to
I think McGovern and Johnson are honest guys. Ritter is 100% on some kind of Russian payroll. He went over there a few weeks ago and was treated like a rockstar.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62542 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:16 pm to
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My guess is the truth is probably in the middle. Our readiness isn’t where it should be, but not as bad as what he is claiming. What do you think?
With our debt levels already at world war levels... I don't think we can afford much of a (real) war. We're a lot closer to mid 80's USSR than early 40s USA.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31681 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

I think McGovern and Johnson are honest guys.


I don't.

Johnson was behind the Michelle Obama "Whitey Tape" hoax.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53693 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

He predicted it would be over in 6 weeks almost a year into the war. He just has no idea what he’s talking about.


Yeah, definitely wrong with that ^^^ prediction, however, He's not wrong about Ukraine having no chance of defeating Russia without the addition of troops from NATO/US.
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2372 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:52 pm to
Good information... MacGregor is sincere.
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