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re: Civil War... States Rights or Slavery
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:45 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:45 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Uhm, no you don't. You have the Righteous Cause Myth that Robert Penn Warren called the 'treasury of virtue' over 70 years ago.
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:46 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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fire up support to voluntarily go fight in a brutal and bloody war (especially with how wars were fought back then)? no, not so much
History is full of people doing exactly that.
Just look at the idiots filling the ranks of Antifa and BLM just as one example. I agree with you completely.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:47 am to imjustafatkid
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This is nonsense for multiple reasons. The most obvious being that slavery still exists. The Civil War didn't end it.
Specifically as it relates to the United States, slavery would have ended during industrialization anyway. Once machines become cheaper than "free labor," slavery ends.
Latin America ended slavery for economic reasons. It was cheaper to hire free labor when needed for harvests and such than it was to support slaves all year.
Free labor would put up a barn in a few days where slave labor would take weeks.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:47 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Just look at the idiots filling the ranks of Antifa and BLM just as one example. I agree with you completely.
Absolutely. And they think they're new.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:48 am to imjustafatkid
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The Confederacy lost because they didn't even have a centralized military.
Wrong. The South lost because they didn't have industry, manpower, and railroads.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:49 am to DawgRebelinAL
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DawgRebelinAL
Location:Confederate States
Yep.
History...
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:50 am to Park duck
It all could have been sorted out without a long bloody war, if a couple pimple-faced Citadel cadets hadn't taken pot shots at a US navy ship in Charleston harbor.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:50 am to Park duck
Fun fact:
The first colony to legalize slavery was Massachusetts.
The first colony to legalize slavery was Massachusetts.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:53 am to DisplacedBuckeye
If you are displaced to anywhere other than Ohio, kindly go home. We have enough pollution.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:53 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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If you don't think their even more ignorant ancestors could be convinced to fight and die for the prosperity of others, you're a fool.
Oh, they were convincing alright. Newton Knight found that out all too well.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:54 am to DawgRebelinAL
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If you are displaced to anywhere other than Ohio, kindly go home. We have enough pollution.
I'm in Montana.
You're smart.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Once a yankee, always a yankee.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:55 am to Pandy Fackler
Brazil says you are full of shite. Check out their history with the institution.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:55 am to roadGator
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roadGator
Montana >>>>> Florida.
Sorry bout it.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:58 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Meh.
Can’t catch Tarpon or Dolphin or snook or reds or sails or wahoo or on and on and on in Montana.
Though big sky is on my to ski list.
Can’t catch Tarpon or Dolphin or snook or reds or sails or wahoo or on and on and on in Montana.
Though big sky is on my to ski list.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:58 am to roadGator
Oh, and you know where that first upvote came from.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:59 am to DisplacedBuckeye
You are just plain mean.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:59 am to imjustafatkid
How are we all worse off?
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:59 am to roadGator
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Can’t catch Tarpon or Dolphin or snook or reds or sails or wahoo or on and on and on in Montana.
Red meat over fish all day.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:00 pm to Park duck
It's both. I think of the state rights, Slavery was the biggest. And the southern states had to push the slavery narrative. The people who would need to fund the succession, and ultimately the war, was the richer slave owners. You had to do whatever it took to get them fired up and willing to pay for the cause.
Most Historians think Slavery would have died out naturally regardless of the war. There were already talks about the inhumanely treatment and such rumbles forming in the southern states.
Most Historians think Slavery would have died out naturally regardless of the war. There were already talks about the inhumanely treatment and such rumbles forming in the southern states.
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