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re: ChudTheBuilder Involved in Shooting

Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:51 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65770 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:51 am to
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Was chud blocking traffic, twerking on cars, setting shite on fire and playing the knockout game?


Obviously those things shouldn't be allowed either, but if you're yelling at and antagonizing people you can't then claim the people you're antagonizing started that altercation. This dude is going to have a very difficult time claiming self defense here.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 8:52 am
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4212 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:52 am to
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So if you can't defend yourself from getting your arse beat... when CAN you use a gun, in your state?

You can defend yourself from getting your arse beat, just not with lethal force. You have to have reasonable belief that your life is in danger to use lethal force(there are other circumstances that aren’t germane). Also, if you instigate a confrontation then you give up your right to claim self defense.

In the case of this douche he may be able to claim self defense if the other person continued to beat his arse while on the ground. But as to what I was saying, punching someone once in the mouth, that’s not justification for a shooting
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21707 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:55 am to
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Obviously those things shouldn't be allowed either, but if you're yelling at and antagonizing people you can't then claim the people you're antagonizing started that altercation. This dude is going to have a very difficult time claiming self defense here.


Chud is a dud.

Parts of this thread are annoying to me though as they seem to conflate an a-hole loud mouth with actual physical violence and destruction of property.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150315 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:55 am to
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is a violent mofo
Chubs entire schtick is to go out and do the best he can to provoke hoping he can catch some idiot in his trap so Chud can respond with violence. Bear spray, Pistol.

It would be dishonest to say otherwise.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11151 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 8:57 am to
Great political post. If only we had an Off Topic Board...
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9465 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:15 am to
Chud sounds like a fricking idiot.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8608 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:20 am to
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punching someone once in the mouth, that’s not justification for a shooting


People have been killed before with one punch. If you decide to retaliate because of someone's words, you're an idiot.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12160 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:21 am to
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But yeah, if you approach people and yell at them, or provoke them, you can be charged with assault. The moment someone feels personally threatened by your words, you have committed assault. People may not like it, but that's how it is.


Homeless people do this all the time and suffer zero repercussions.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12160 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:21 am to
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People have been killed before with one punch.



Not this bullshite again.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8608 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:23 am to
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Not this bullshite again.


Are you saying this isn't true?
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12160 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:28 am to
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Are you saying this isn't true?

Requires you to savagely one punch KO someone AND have them hit their head on something. Its extremely rare.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87334 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:32 am to
I think if the playing field was level - we talked about racial stuff truthfully, prosecutors didn't enforce selectively, our government cared about protecting regular people from sacred cow protected classes - then we could largely all come together and say he deserved to get punched for being a dick and a public menace.

But it's not, so there is a natural inclination not to be "gracious" on that account because we know it won't ever be returned to normal, decent people. Just another sign of the broken social contract.

Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35918 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:35 am to
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Chubs entire schtick is to go out and do the best he can to provoke hoping he can catch some idiot in his trap so Chud can respond with violence. Bear spray, Pistol. It would be dishonest to say otherwise.


I don’t think it’s quite that complicated. I think he just wants to film himself saying things to people that society says are verboten. He’s a provocateur in a world where cancel culture has been made obsolete.

What struck me as funny about his videos is most of the black people I saw were very calm and seemed mostly bewildered at what he was even saying, which completely contradicted his repeated invitation to “not chimp out”.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14047 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:37 am to
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So if you can't defend yourself from getting your arse beat... when CAN you use a gun, in your state?


Generally self defense must be proportional, but there is also an exception that you can't claim self defense if you instigate or escalate the encounter.

It's possible this Chud guy can claim self defense or it's possible he is going to jail for a long time. Seems impossible to tell with the current amount of info.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21707 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:39 am to
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I think if the playing field was level - we talked about racial stuff truthfully, prosecutors didn't enforce selectively, our government cared about protecting regular people from sacred cow protected classes - then we could largely all come together and say he deserved to get punched for being a dick and a public menace.


This is exactly it.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35918 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:43 am to
Great line from Arcade Fire tune which applies to social media craze where people will do anything for likes and follows.

“God, make me famous! If you can’t, just make it painless.”
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8608 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 9:56 am to
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Requires you to savagely one punch KO someone AND have them hit their head on something. Its extremely rare.


So it can and has happened. You act like it has never happened before.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182247 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:01 am to
Chud is fricked



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Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8608 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:29 am to
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Chud is fricked


Oh, I'm sure he is. His mouth overrode his arse. Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. His antics will definitely be used against him by the prosecution. But, in everyday life, if the black guy does the same with any other white guy, I believe the white guy walks under self defense.
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