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Christopher Hitchens: lefty claims Islamic fundamentalism created by American Imperialism

Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:44 pm
Even though Hitch was a lefty, he was no idiot.

Brutal

Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:51 pm to
Yes, people don't speak enough about the Muslims and slavery.


Posted by jrobic4
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:52 pm to
Funny how it's "our views" that have evolved
Posted by BozemanTiger
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:00 pm to
Ahhhh fuuucskkk.

Can't post what I want to.
Posted by BamaCoaster
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 3:14 pm to
Hitchens would be maga by today’s standards.
Would have been cancelled awhile ago.
Maybe even shot while touring college campuses.
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:26 pm to
How do some of these idiots remember to breathe?
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:29 pm to
He'd be banned or in jail in most of Western Europe.
Posted by UtahCajun
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:31 pm to
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lefty claims Islamic fundamentalism created by American Imperialism


Eh, plenty of evidence to say it existed before America existed
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:47 pm to
I thought he was a libertarian. Am I mixing up my gay libertarians?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:49 pm to
shores of Triploi FTW
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 4:59 pm to
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Yes, people don't speak enough about

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slavery.

I still read YouTube comments about the evil US and slavery. A search of the countries that transported the most African slaves to try US is interesting from top to bottom:
Portugal/Brazil, nearly six million
Britain, nearly three and a half million
France, 1.3 million
Spain/Uruguay, over one million
Netherlands, half a million
USA, 300.000
Denmark, 111,000

I know this is off topic but it will make you resent uppity Europeans who still drag that tired story of slavery out for us.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:29 pm to
There is a great YouTuber named Fat Electrician. He does American History episodes

On the Barbary Pirates he said the world learned a lesson that will come up often, "You don't mess with American boats"

It will always end badly for you
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:31 pm to
Hitchens was no Liberal, he was an anti-Royalist Libertarian Intellectual bordering on Classical Conservatism.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:32 pm to
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I thought he was a libertarian
He was a far left libertarian

Probably more of a libertarian socialist. . .until 9/11

Then he became a full-on "save western civ" guy
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:33 pm to
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Hitchens was no Liberal, he was an anti-Royalist Libertarian Intellectual bordering on Classical Conservatism.
He was a full-on socialist for almost his entire life
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:35 pm to
No he wasn't go online and find his Firing Line appearances from the 1980's
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 5:39 pm to
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He was a full-on socialist for almost his entire life


He was a socialist insomuch as it was en vogue among academia in 1968 as it represented the opposition to Vietnam, etc . I don’t think he ever cared that much about economic theory and certainly never advocated any Marxist Leninism into adulthood. His socialist icons were Rosa Luxembourg and George Orwell, the latter of whom was not a Marxist at all, and unfortunately Leon Trotsky. His admiration for Trotsky, while misguided, was entirely based on him being some grand historical figure who opposed both Stalin and Hitler.

Hitch crossed the Rubicon officially after 9/11 but he was pretty much a neoliberal by the 1980s (per OchoDedos comment). He was an American citizen and recognized that life was good under capitalism. His only foray into socialism by this point was anti-militaristic foreign policy but even then it wasn’t couched in socialist terms.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 5:43 pm
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:50 pm to
LOL Islam was built on conquest and slavery. All of North Africa was Christian until Mohammed's legions invaded and put the people to the sword.

The ONLY majority Muslim area on Earth that wasn't made that way by conquest were the places like Malaysia, where Islamic armies couldn't go, and the religion was spread by trade.
Posted by Laugh More
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:53 pm to


These part of our history is one of my favorite. I’ve read a couple books on it, but this guy’s channel is a pretty fun way to learn some history.
Posted by HagaDaga
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:55 pm to
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Yes, people don't speak enough about the Muslims and slavery.

We don't speak enough about how our ancestors fought islam for over a milenia. The Christian West and Islam are natural enemies, yet we are bringing them in in droves naively.

Pure anti-American evil.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 7:56 pm
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