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Chris Cuomo thinks Scalia Invented the 2A

Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:53 am
I wish that I were kidding. This is what he said:

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Do you remember what the 2a was created for? That there was no individual right contemplated until Scalia read it in? If you are an originalist about the constitution you have no basis for thinking you and not the state controls access.


Chris Cuomo Tweets Peak Stupid
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:55 am to
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If you are an originalist about the constitution you have no basis for thinking you and not the state controls access.


So originalists think the state controls rights and individual rights don't exist?

quote:

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


What part of this says the state controls the right and its not an individual right?
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 8:56 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 8:58 am to
These people think the BoR is a document that states what rights the government grants you, not the inalienable rights they are aren't allowed to infringe upon.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

That there was no individual right contemplated until Scalia read it in?


Well, if that is true, that's true for every single thing in the Constitution, because it has all been litigated.

They so badly want to make it read, "The Second Amendment says that the government entities like the police and military can be armed." Now, that's nonsense, both in context and just the plain reading of it. Yet they reject any argument or suggestion to the contrary.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15807 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:01 am to
I think Chris Cuomo is legit retarded. But for his last name he would probably be selling Hyundais in Rochester.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:03 am to
Chris Cuomo: The 2nd amendment exists to protect the government's right to carry weapons.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79678 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:05 am to
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These people think the BoR is a document that states what rights the government grants you, not the inalienable rights they are aren't allowed to infringe upon.



This.

It’s a complete misreading of the document’s intent.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34662 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:07 am to
Let a Cuomo talk long enough, and he'll reveal his stupidity
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42406 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:08 am to
Scalia did not “read in” an individual right. He did his job, which was to interpret the Second Amendment and apply it to the case. He did that. He literally interpreted the exact language of the Second Amendment. He said that the prefatory clause (militia part) announced a purpose for, but did not limit, the second part, which said the people have the right to keep and bear arms.
This post was edited on 8/8/19 at 9:11 am
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:08 am to
Remember when the left used to say "No one is coming for your precious guns"?

I miss those days.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:18 am to
And just to think, for the last 250 years, Americans have completely misread the 2nd Amendment and have been illegally personally owning guns.

Thanks for coming along and clearing that up for us, Chris.

What a douche.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:20 am to
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Chris Cuomo thinks

This has never happened
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1273 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:35 am to
There’s a reason he is known as Fredo, of the Cuomo crime family. This is juat one example.
Posted by Gr8t8s
Member since Oct 2009
2579 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:12 am to
Every amendment in the BoR is not a “granting of rights.” In the FF’s eyes, all men were born with those rights and the amendments were to be an assurance of individual liberty against the government.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:21 am to
I typically find something good in most folks. I think having a beer with Rachel Maddow would be very interesting and entertaining.

But Chris Cuomo is an epic douche. 100% unlikable and uninteresting. He's so arrogant for such a dumass. Who can forget him telling everyone that they were not to form their own opinions based on wikileaks emails. Rather we should get our opinion from him and other media....cause it's illegal for us to read them
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:13 am to
your thread title is bad and stupid.

But we owe a lot to Scalia. If it weren't for Scalia hammering out a deal with Kennedy, Heller would have gone the other way and screwed us badly. Kennedy screwed us anyway bc he demanded Heller only apply to the home, but that doesn't take away from Scalia's achievement. Cuomo is obviously wrong about his angle, but Scalia for all intents and purposes is the reason we didn't have that individual right stolen.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:27 am to
Just when you thought Cuomo couldn’t get anymore delusional.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Do you remember what the 2a was created for? That there was no individual right contemplated until Scalia read it in? If you are an originalist about the constitution you have no basis for thinking you and not the state controls access.
It is true that the history of jurisprudence on the matter seems to indicate that interpreting it as an individual right was a very recent construct.

podcast on the topic
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10358 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:02 pm to
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It is true that the history of jurisprudence on the matter seems to indicate that interpreting it as an individual right was a very recent construct.

Yeah, no. LINK
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12096 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:07 pm to
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That there was no individual right contemplated until Scalia read it in? If you are an originalist about the constitution you have no basis for thinking you and not the state controls access.





That is Toddy level stupid.
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