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Chip Roy claims birthright citizenship can be ended by congressional bill.

Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:51 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:51 am


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The Supreme Court’s flawed ruling on birthright citizenship is poised to trigger a massive wave of abuse and exploitation.

Congressman Chip Roy says fixing it DOES NOT require a Constitutional Amendment.

Take a listen to @chiproytx's plan!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:53 am to
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Chip Roy claims birthright citizenship can be ended by congressional bill.


Chip Roy is wrong.

Kavanaugh's concurrence said this may work, but he was 1 of 9 making that argument and there is a majority who disagrees, which is what matters.

Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:54 am to
Brett Kavanaugh outlined a path in his dissenting opinion:


Justice Brett Kavanaugh outlined a distinct path for addressing birthright citizenship when the Supreme Court struck down a presidential executive order attempting to end the practice.

While he agreed with the court's judgment that the specific executive order was invalid, his legal reasoning differed from the majority and established the following key points:

No Constitutional Violation: In his separate opinion, Kavanaugh stated that he did not believe the president's executive order violated the 14th Amendment itself.

Statutory Conflict: Instead, he argued that the order contradicted existing federal statutes that govern citizenship and immigration laws.

A Legislative Roadmap: Kavanaugh asserted that Congress could bypass the constitutional constraints by passing new legislation. Specifically, he noted that lawmakers could amend current federal statutes to establish exceptions to birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to foreign citizens who are in the country unlawfully or temporarily
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 7:56 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:55 am to
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Brett Kavanaugh outlined a path in his dissenting opinion:


How is this going to work when only 1 of 9 agrees with this? 4 at best
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 7:56 am
Posted by Tigergreg
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:58 am to
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How is this going to work when only 1 of 9 agrees with this? 4 at best


The legislation would have to be tailored and be specific. We'll never get Kagan, Jackson or Sotomayor. We just need Barrett or Roberts to switch.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:00 am to
Chip Roy would be correct if Justice Kavanaugh’s opinion had been the majority one, but it was not. The current majority of SCOTUS disagrees with Chip Roy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:00 am to
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We just need Barrett or Roberts to switch.


Why would they switch?

Public pressure? Threats? It wouldn't be based on legal reasoning.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:06 am to
SCOTUS has shown they give deference to legislation so I would suggest part of immigration reform to clearly define who is granted birthright citizenship including a definition to specify “jurisdiction” to align with the constitution. It would get challenged but would have a fighting chance.

All a moot point though because Congress can’t do shite other than approve billions for Ukraine.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:06 am to
senate republicans will not pass it. Massie, Thune, McConnell, Cornyn , Cassidy - one or all will stop it.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
16451 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:08 am to
I wouldn’t say “can” but “could.”
But this is all hot air anyway because there’s no way they would get it done because too many of them wouldn’t want to get it done when push came to shove.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:11 am to
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SCOTUS has shown they give deference to legislation so I would suggest part of immigration reform to clearly define who is granted birthright citizenship including a definition to specify “jurisdiction” to align with the constitution. It would get challenged but would have a fighting chance.


That ship sailed with the latest ruling.

Any legislation violating the Constitutional baseline re-established last week is illegal and the law is null/void.

Congress does not have the ability to redefine what the Constitution says and move Constitutional baselines. If that were true, Congress would be Emperor Palpatine

Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:13 am to
Massie is not a Senator, know your congressional people.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:21 am to
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Any legislation violating the Constitutional baseline re-established last week is illegal and the law is null/void.


It is until Congress takes action.

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In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.


Now I know modern politicians don't have the balls to use that power, but it looks like they have it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:26 am to
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Now I know modern politicians don't have the balls to use that power, but it looks like they have it.

That power you cited doesn't overrule judicial review. Judicial Review isn't even specifically in the Constitution

*ETA: that's a WHOLE 'nother discussion, though
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 8:35 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:40 am to
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Congressman Chip Roy says fixing it DOES NOT require a Constitutional Amendment.
Unless Roberts, Barrett, or the 3 libs change their opinion, Chip Roy is dead wrong.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:41 am to
We had a better chance with SCOTUS than thinking Congress will actually do anything about it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:41 am to
Roberts made damn sure this wasn't true, unfortunately
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:43 am to
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It is until Congress takes action.
The SCOTUS ruling negated that option. Kavanaugh held with the minority that Congress could take action.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36327 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:45 am to
Perhaps an outright ban would not be possible, but they could pass laws to make it very difficult and the penalties egregious.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28652 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:53 am to
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That power you cited doesn't overrule judicial review.


What does it do? The plain English would suggest that Congress can remove an item from the jurisdiction of the Courts.
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