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re: China preparing for second wave or outbreak already happening? Seizing PPE factories

Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:37 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:37 am to
I mean, they're an authoritarian communist regime. Don't they already have control over this factory by default?
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6965 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:37 am to
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Political ploy to scare the rest of the world.
they did this the first time around. China plays 3d chess. Our politicians play checkers
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28157 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:39 am to
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China is waging war on the world and we're too fricking stupid to stop it...


Why would China need to seize the factories? They could just keep the product. Seizing the factories, that's meant for a show.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:39 am to
It’s probably psych ops aimed at our Karens & Kens to help China’s American Democratic comrades.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50411 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:39 am to
China has figured out that if an R is in the WH, they can use fear to control us, as they control the Democrats and the media.

Yet another reason we shouldn't rely on them for PPE.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12036 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:43 am to
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Political ploy to scare the rest of the world.



It probably spread outside Wuhan and now its out of control.
Looks like the created a monster on us and its backfired.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41779 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:46 am to
My guess is that China is still working with the Democrats to hurt our country so that the Dems can gain power.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19047 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:47 am to
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My guess is that China is still working with the Democrats to hurt our country so that the Dems can gain power.


DING DING DING DING

Some of y'all need to read The Hundred Year Marathon.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79954 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:50 am to
If countries around the globe don’t start banning incoming/outgoing flights from China, then more fool them.

The CCP has made China a rogue actor.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99174 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:52 am to
Can't be.

They're response is the model for the world according to WHO, Bill Gates and the Dems
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48510 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:52 am to
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China has us on the ropes


This is definitely true.

USA is currently being talked to by the Ref during a "Standing 8-count" after being knocked down by a Left Hook that came from China.

Dems have "the towel" ready, held by Joe Biden. They can't wait to throw that sucker into the ring and end the Trump Resistance to Chinese Mastery.

This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48510 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:55 am to
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My guess is that China is still working with the Democrats to hurt our country so that the Dems can gain power.


. . . and I'll bet that the FBI is so infected by Leftism that any realistic efforts to detect Democrat collusion with Red China will be thwarted and ignored.

Subversion. The FBI and the CIA have been subverted.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37705 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:00 am to
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People think New York is huge, but it is #41 in most populated cities in the world.


And Wuhan is the size of NYC
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:00 am to
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quote:but power brokers in the west will never tolerate their production being use to fill home nation orders first regardless of price on the free market because the free market is more important in the west than the west is.... Which is why nationalism is good


It is good...the problem is that we can't compete with China as they operate and we operate as long as we continue to ensure viable markets around the globe for Chinese manufactured products AND people with power and influence in Washington also have financial interests in China. The numbers aren't as skewed as we think they are if you consider the entire EU and the US/Mexico and Canada as a combined market...but Chinese financial interests depend on a viable China and....wait for it....a Viable west also now depends on a viable China because the people with money and power have invested in China and that investment is far more important to them than the west....as long as the west has the military might to prevent the ChiComs from seizing that investment and providing safe markets is the biggest weapon the west has those investments are safe...and we will do anything to make certain those people's financial interests are taken care of because they are also the people who make those kinds of decisions.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21070 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:04 am to
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Political ploy to scare the rest of the world.


Exactly, my guess is they probably are having a smaller second way, but trying to gin up more press to force other countries to contract with them the second time. I do not think Trump is going to go for it again.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13504 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:32 am to
Medical supplies are strategic critical materials and must be manufactured domestically.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21070 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:36 am to
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This is definitely true.

USA is currently being talked to by the Ref during a "Standing 8-count" after being knocked down by a Left Hook that came from China.

Dems have "the towel" ready, held by Joe Biden. They can't wait to throw that sucker into the ring and end the Trump Resistance to Chinese Mastery.


Bro, we still have a President with some fight in him, this is not over. We just need to get him reelected for another 4 years and watch America easily surpass the Chinese. Freedom fueled America is > than quasi free/communist China. Basically the manufacturing jobs we seeded to China has fueled their growth. The second we start pulling out of China, they got troubles.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4546 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:40 am to
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shifting our philosophy from mitigation efforts like flattening the curve (to protect healthcare capacity) to elimination efforts (and the shift was silent, i might add) was insane, especially considering we have no plan to have a functioning society along with elimination efforts. we can do it with mitigation, but not elimination.


Spot on. We also didn't even shut down drastically enough for elimination to be a viable option. We've basically been limping along with a reproductive rate just slightly below 1 in most states for a long time without accomplishing anything. Entire thing has been a shite show.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 10:41 am
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4764 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:42 am to
China never had it under control
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6697 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 10:46 am to
"The ChiComs do not want the factory lines...those things are like owning real estate, you don't really own them they own you....the ChiComs understand they know squat about making PPE for export...but there are people in China who do know something about it and so they "allow" those people to exploit poor people and the environment with"

Read that in the funny papers and believed every word did you?

Here is Chinese reality. This was on our Board at work for the Marketing and Sales Team.

A Chinese Refrigerator factory was having quality control issues. Refrigerators were failing at an alarming rate. The Party Officials visited the factory to set a goal of increasing the quality control situation. Turns out that Party Officials were told to buy the refrigerators and were complaining about the constant failures. Quality in the factory did not increase. The Party arrived with 20 soldiers. All of Management was marched out into the rice paddies behind the factory. All of the employees ordered to witness the new Quality Control Policy. The entire Management Staff was shot in the rice paddy. A new group of managers were chosen from the employees that had witnessed the executions. They were marched into the factory and told to get back to work. Quality increased 100 fold......Interesting the method of incentive by the Chinese Communist Party.

If you think for a moment that the Party simply issued a purchase order and demanded first in line approval .... quit drinking from the toilet water ... The Party issued this order ..."ALL of your products are now being bought from the Communist Party. Sell to anyone else and there will be a new owner of the factory shortly."

Remember, several prominent Billionaires simply vanished during the Wuhan lock downs for simply complaining about their being shuttered in.
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