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China decides how it is portrayed in Hollywood

Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:14 pm
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China’s booming box office and seemingly inexhaustible cash reserves have provided a much-needed boost to Hollywood as it faces slowing ticket sales in the United States and challenges from Amazon and Netflix.

But Hollywood’s embrace of China has not come without strings attached.

So when the creators of “Pixels” wanted to show aliens blasting a hole in the Great Wall of China, Sony executives worried that the scene might prevent the 2015 movie’s release in China, leaked studio emails show. They blew up the Taj Mahal instead.




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In the 1960s, Marvel Comics introduced a mystical guru character known as the Ancient One into its universe. He was portrayed as an elderly Tibetan man.




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But in the 2016 movie “Doctor Strange,” the Ancient One is Celtic, played by the white actress Tilda Swinton. Moviemakers decided to change the character’s ethnicity early in the process, reportedly to avoid offending the Chinese government.

As recently as two decades ago, major Hollywood movies were sharply critical of China. “Seven Years in Tibet,” which depicts Chinese soldiers brutalizing Tibetans, was one of the top 100 grossing movies of 1997. Also that year, Disney released Martin Scorsese’s “Kundun” — a sympathetic portrayal of the Dalai Lama’s early life in Mao-era China and his subsequent exile in India — despite objections from the Chinese authorities.


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“You’re not going to see something that’s like ‘Seven Years in Tibet’ anymore,” said Larry Shinagawa, a professor at Hawaii Tokai International College who specializes in Asian and Asian-American studies. Studios that make films critical of China, he said, risk being banned from releasing movies in the country.


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Selling their souls just to increase that bottom line.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:17 pm to
The remake of Red Dawn was made with Chinese invaders but when the Chinese found out and complained...MGM:

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In the end, MGM spent $1 million digitally erasing evidence of the Chinese Army, frame by frame, and substituting in North Koreans instead.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19519 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:20 pm to

Swearengen say you corksocka!
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:20 pm to
The chinamen are on here too:

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:22 pm to
Worse, is what they've done to all but kill any intelligent dialogue in movies because of the need to have them easily translatable (subtitled/dubbed/or whatever).
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112469 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:24 pm to
Hollywood shouldn't have turned down Bruce Lee for the Kung Fu TV show. Carradine didn't look Chinese at all.
Bruce Lee was pissed. Especially because his mom was German and he got grief for being a 'white boy.'
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:24 pm to
They can bite the wax tadpole.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:26 pm to
Don’t forget mooselimbs cant be bad guys anymore. The only villains there are anymore are Russians
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:27 pm to
China may help slow down the forced diversity in Hollywood. The Last Jedi failed there in part because they think John Boyega is ugly. They are unapologetic in their racism.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95429 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:32 pm to
Or white guys or neonazis.

The film of The Sum Of All Fears was the worst about this.


In the book, the terrorists were middle eastern (Palestinian or Syrian) and East German ex-Stasi along with an American Indian criminal.

In the movie? White neonazis.


Shame, too, because the book was great.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Don’t forget mooselimbs cant be bad guys anymore. The only villains there are anymore are Russians


What does that have to do with Chinese influence on our film industry?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34080 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:40 pm to
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Selling their souls just to increase that bottom line.



Jew's run Hollywood....it's all about money, and who they can frick over, nothing else matters.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141926 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:41 pm to
It's not simply the Chinese market. Supposedly half the production money in H'wood comes from China or the Arabs.

This latter is the reason Sum of all Fears was changed.

Watch the hidden camera video of Ed Begley Jr and Mariel Hemingway kissing "Arab" arse to get production money out of them.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14494 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:41 pm to
The golden rule...








personally I have no problem with it. If it is going to piss people off and cause you to lose business, then don't do it. Wish Hollywood followed that rule here in the USA. I mean we aren't talking art films, it was Pixels for Pete's sake.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141926 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:45 pm to
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China may help slow down the forced diversity in Hollywood. The Last Jedi failed there in part because they think John Boyega is ugly. They are unapologetic in their racism.
Movies get black leads in the US b/c blacks "open" -- they come out in the film's first two weeks, before the studio's % of the take goes down.

I'd love to see some stats on how these movies w/black leads do in Japan (the most racist country on Earth).
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9646 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:52 pm to
We've seen a few movies recently with a clear China influence, the latest being the instant classic and Oscar contender, Meg. Let's just say I'll be doing my best to avoid these kinds of movie going forward.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141926 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:52 pm to
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Worse, is what they've done to all but kill any intelligent dialogue in movies because of the need to have them easily translatable (subtitled/dubbed/or whatever).
To be fair, you can't simply blame this on the Chinese. It really started w/Ahnuld and the huge expansion of the foreign action market.

In the golden age of H'wood the market was 70% domestic, 30% foreign. Those figures are now reversed. So instead of repartee we get one-liners like "I'll be Bach" that the producers hope will become catchphrases.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141926 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Hollywood shouldn't have turned down Bruce Lee for the Kung Fu TV show. Carradine didn't look Chinese at all.
Bruce Lee was pissed.
In fairness, Bruce had a rather thick Chinese accent

But the final word on the subject came from Chuck Norris: "David Carradine is as good a martial artist as I am an actor."
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61247 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:56 pm to
Also, Yoda in TLJ was shown basically as IRL Yoda with a glow...because China is not cool with ghosts. In the originals the "force ghosts" were more transparent.


To reassure the Chinese Yoda wasnt a ghost they even allowed him to lightning the tree.
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