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re: Chief Justice Roberts says No to Impeachment of Trump/Harris could preside over the trial

Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:40 pm to
Democrats and politicians in general have been saying "frick the constitution " for a long time
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67632 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:43 pm to
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Nancy wants to say Impeached twice


But that actually sounds badass.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5623 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:44 pm to
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...does not want to preside...


He CANNOT preside. He only sits when the defendant is The President. Trump is not.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:46 pm to
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Constitution says "shall" but, again, if it is not a proper procedure, he would be able to just say no an dismiss.
He is the judge, after all.



Cant disagree.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:47 pm to
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Doubt it.



As you say, it's not like they can make him, but if he refuses, it seems he would be violating his oath to faithfully discharge his duties.

Is there any sort of mechanism that would allow him to put a stop to it all before it got to the Senate trial level? Because it seems to me that if it got to that point it would be his sworn duty to preside.

That was the rationale first time around, iirc in regards to what I read about him stepping down if he didn't preside. Of course, first time around it was just theoretical on the idea that Trump could potentially muster a defense that called John Roberts as a material witness to the trial, thereby conflicting him. Could be a totally different situation.

Could you expand on your thoughts beyond "doubt it" perhaps?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:49 pm to
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Constitution says "shall" but, again, if it is not a proper procedure, he would be able to just say no an dismiss.
He is the judge, after all.



Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4826 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:58 pm to
Maybe he wants to recuse because it might be challenged in the USSC. There would be a conflict of interest there but I think it sends a strong message to the Dems that they need to rethink this and let it die. If they want to keep pushing I could see Joe pardoning him to put this behind the country.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24649 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 9:58 pm to
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cajunangelle
You and the hubby should cancel Faux News and switch to OAN. You'll be much happier.

I'm more politically and globally informed after just four months of watching OAN than I was after decades of watching Faux News. Just give them a shot...
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37316 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:09 pm to
Total fricking clown works in which we reside that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States of America states he wants no part of a viable, yet extremely important case that be chooses to defer to Kamala fricking Harris.

This once great nation is now a complete frickshow of epic proportions. Anyone that legitimately voted for this current administration is guilty of treason as far as I'm concerned. Unity?!?!?!? You want unity?!!?!?!

Get ready for the next staged "mass shooting" so they can come after your firearms. They will say it is a white supremacist and domestic terrorist while turning a blind eye to the events of the last four years.

Present day democrats are less than pond the amoeba feeding off of pond scum. There is not a single career politician working for anyone's interest but their own slimy pockets. We have all been duped. Every single one of us.

There will never be another fair election again. You like your doctor, you can keep it. How did that work? Socialized healthcare is next. You like your 401k that"s been on steroids the last four years, yeah we will see about that. You like your low cost of gasoline? You like the comfort of America being feared across the globe? Not happening.

NTY OP:
To each and every one of you liberal pieces of steaming shite, GFY from the bottom of my toenails. Every single goddamn one of you. Treasonous leaches. Buyer's remorse yet you pieces of shite?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19086 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:16 pm to
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They want no part of allowing Trump anywhere near a court room.


Roberts understands that would ruin the courts image

They'd just be people, not god like creations, floating in the ether, above us, mere mortals.

On the other hand, I'd love to see Kamala put Trump on trial. That's about the dumbest thing they could possible do.

So I hope they do it.
This post was edited on 1/22/21 at 10:16 pm
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:27 pm to
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If they want to keep pushing I could see Joe pardoning him to put this behind the country.

Say what now?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 10:32 pm to
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I'd love to see Kamala put Trump on trial

Madea goes to court starring kamala harris.

Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 1/22/21 at 11:59 pm to
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Chief Justice Roberts reportedly does not want to preside over a second Trump impeachment


Roberts is AFRAID. He is a coward. He refuses to do his job. It is his job to preside over an impeachment, not Kamala. Where in the Constitution does it say Kamala presides over an impeachment.
Roberts is afraid if Trump is not impeached, they will come for him. He is afraid if Trump is impeached they will come for him. He is compromised by his fears.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:22 am to
quote:

Constitution says "shall" but, again, if it is not a proper procedure, he would be able to just say no an dismiss.
He is the judge, after all.


I think you are right.

And I guess if he issues an "opinion" that he will not participate because the procedure is improper, he effectively does the same thing. And that would be a very shrewd move on his part. He then could likely still participate in the review as a SCOTUS justice when it comes up.

Old John may be playing some three-D chess here.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26774 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:24 am to
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Kamala Harris could preside over Trump impeachment trial


From fricking a guy to get in politics to fricking a guy to get him out of politics
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111495 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:24 am to
Roberts thinks he can avoid being viewed as a partisan. He’s probably too far into his charade to ditch it.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57831 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:33 am to
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Chief Justice Roberts reportedly does not want to preside over a second Trump impeachment


That’s only till they remind Roberts of the tapes they have of him on pedo island.
This post was edited on 1/23/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26025 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:34 am to
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Bitch hasn't even sent the article to Turtle


Why would she send the articles of impeachment to the senate minority leader?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4249 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:46 am to
Where does it say a chief justice can refuse?

Maybe he's saying he can't preside over a trial of an x official because such a trial is unconstitutional?
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32823 posts
Posted on 1/23/21 at 9:49 am to
They are moving forward on a trial set to take place within two weeks so Roberts must be on board
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