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Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:37 pm to bayoudude
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nfa repealed
I just don’t see this happening legislatively unless they ditch the filibuster. There’s no way to get 60 senators or board when half the republicans are spineless democrats like Bill Cassidy.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:39 pm to Night Vision
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Pamela Hicks
JFC. Last time I saw a jaw line like that, it was inside a football helmet.

Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:49 pm to Night Vision
Wonder if SNL will let her have her old role playing Pat back?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:51 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Is that a man or a woman?
Spitting image of a dude I know.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:53 pm to Night Vision
She looks like an AI generated avatar for a career federal officer that has never done anything of substance
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:56 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Every single gun law is an unconstitutional infringement on our rights.
Is every single libel or defamation, or public disturbance law based on speech or action also an unconstitutional infringement?
Because “Congress shall make no law” is exactly as linguistically restrictive as “shall not be infringed”
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:10 pm to Night Vision
Now legalize suppressors.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:11 pm to Night Vision
Every ATF employee should be fired. Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a bureau.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:18 pm to cadillacattack
I understand the absolutist position. I’m asking why that principle wouldn’t also apply to the first amendment that contains similarly restrictive language.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:08 pm to Indefatigable
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Is every single libel or defamation, or public disturbance law based on speech or action also an unconstitutional infringement?
I would say no. You must consider tbr history and tradition at the time the amendment and the whole constitution was ratified. Free speech meant the ability to express opinions and beliefs, not the ability to knowingly make false statements or knowingly writing false statements about an historical event.
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Because “Congress shall make no law” is exactly as linguistically restrictive as “shall not be infringed”
You have to use history and tradition as Justice Thomas wrote. You also must interpret (even plain and simple phrases unfortunately). What is an “arm”? What does it mean to “keep”? What does it mean to “bear” in the context of the 1780s? What did the framers write in what we call the Federalist Papers?
Keeping in line with history and tradition and the plain text, I should be able to own a cannon, a Gatling gun, a tank, an M16, a gunship, a fighter jet, mustard gas, and an atom bomb.
We also have judges and juries to be used for arbitration and determination of truth. If it can be proven to a jury of their peers that they knowingly printed falsehoods (stated as facts, not at mere opinions) then that is not “free speech”.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:11 pm to Indefatigable
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Is every single libel or defamation, or public disturbance law based on speech or action also an unconstitutional infringement?
Because “Congress shall make no law” is exactly as linguistically restrictive as “shall not be infringed”
All that, and you did nothing to refute what was posted.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:13 pm to Indefatigable
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I understand the absolutist position.
You really don't.
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I’m asking why that principle wouldn’t also apply to the first amendment that contains similarly restrictive language.
That isn't what you're asking at all.
If anyone was arguing that murder with a firearm is protected by the Second Amendment, you might have a point.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:39 pm to Night Vision
Are you sure it's Pam and not Paul????????????
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:47 pm to Night Vision
Damn
The Purge is going to fast for my simple mind.
But don't slowdown on my account.
The Purge is going to fast for my simple mind.
But don't slowdown on my account.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:38 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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You really don't.
I really do. It’s just not consistent.
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If anyone was arguing that murder with a firearm is protected by the Second Amendment, you might have a point.
You cannot lie in a civil deposition without potentially facing legal consequences because Congress (or state legislatures) have passed laws to that effect. Congress has abridged my freedom of speech. I cannot, in fact, say whatever I want.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:49 pm to Night Vision
This is stupid. Should be a lot more of the ATF being fired. The whole thing needs shutdown
Posted on 2/21/25 at 5:07 am to Indefatigable
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I really do.
You don't.
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It’s just not consistent.
It is.
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You cannot lie in a civil deposition without potentially facing legal consequences because Congress (or state legislatures) have passed laws to that effect.
You can't rob a liquor store with a firearm, either, because that has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.
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Congress has abridged my freedom of speech. I cannot, in fact, say whatever I want.
You can, in fact, say whatever you want. If you lie to your dog in your living room, what are the legal consequences? If you lie to the birds in your back yard, is a police officer going to kick your door in?
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