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re: Chauvin Verdict reached...GUILTY - ALL COUNTS

Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:03 pm to
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One good thing is if it is overturned on appeal
Why do so many people keep talking about the potential for it to be overturned on appeal? The whole encounter was videotaped, so it's not like this was a case of circumstantial or questionable evidence, regarding who was even involved at all with potentially exculpatory evidence either hidden or yet to be discovered that can be brought on appeal.

I guess anything is possible, but the jury's decision itself, whether someone believes it was the right decision or not, is not really appealable, unless we find out that they were given incorrect instructions or something (but this was heavily covered so that should have been caught).
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:05 pm to
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Based on the video, with people screaming to Chauvin that he was killing Floyd, it looked like he was in a power trip mode, and only cared about establishing his power/dominance, without any regard for the consequences, including Floyd's death. In hindsight without the emotions of the moment, I'm sure he would have chose differently, but unfortunately, it doesn't matter because we can't change the past (at least not yet).


Even DCs colleagues attempted to deescalate DC, yet he disregarded any concern.
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:05 pm to
Policing themselves works for me; there won't be any
and there will be roving gangs.

They are on their own. Big fence to keep their lawless selves in.


edited for spelling







This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1041 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:07 pm to
I think the Noor decision changed Minnesota's "depraved mind" standard. That will likely be appealed, and prior to Noor, I saw some MN jurists state that because Chauvin's actions were specific to Floyd (as opposed to a crowd), it would not be sustainable. In any event, it looks less like other states "depraved heart" and more like "reckless endangerment"
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:27 pm to
Ridiculous verdict.

At the most he should have been convicted for Manslaughter third degree.
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
855 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:29 pm to
Whole lot of you racists showing your true colors up in here.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1342 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:31 pm to
ROT IN PRISON BITCH
Posted by Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
1499 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:35 pm to
So anyone who disagrees with the verdict is a racist?

Wanna try again? You can do better...I think.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by chrisharrisbaby
Member since Mar 2014
728 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:42 pm to
These comments definitely did not disappoint ohh wee.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94809 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:50 pm to
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Why do so many people keep talking about the potential for it to be overturned on appeal?


Let's say we put you on trial for some charge - "Being a dickhead tOSU fan" - and, whether or not you did it, leading up to the jury actually making their decisions a very important member of Congress said that folks should get confrontational, implicitly condoning violence if you were acquitted and the President of the United States called the Michigan head football coach and said he prayed that the jury did the right thing (by convicting your sorry arse).

Now, does it matter a single shite that you ARE a dickhead tOSU fan in those circumstances as to the question of whether or not you received a fair trial?

(ETA: Also, the media published all the information and bios of the jurors before they rendered the verdict, without names of course, because that isn't intimidating at all.)
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 5:58 pm
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 5:51 pm to
This changes nothing. What time do the riots start?
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:00 pm to
Talk about a lynching.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154721 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

for some charge - "Being a dickhead tOSU fan


Guilty
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18915 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:12 pm to
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Whole lot of you racists showing your true colors up in here.


Racist doesn’t mean anything anymore because of people like you. Congrats.
Posted by Category5
Member since Mar 2019
295 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:27 pm to
DC was a sacrifice to BLM, Auntie Maxine, and Pedro Joe. He did not get a fair trial. DC did not cause the death of GF. GF was a dead man walking. Had DC not did his job, GF would've quietly died in his car just like any other junkie. If I were a police officer today, I would find another career. Maybe they will wake up when their neighborhood turns into the wild west.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:34 pm to
his wife divorced him

Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
21981 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:51 pm to
Nancy Pelosi’s comment got me
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 6:56 pm to
I think we can all agree that at least we don't have to listen to George Floyd's crackhead opinion of the verdict.
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16557 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:10 pm to
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Why do so many people keep talking about the potential for it to be overturned on appeal? The whole encounter was videotaped, so it's not like this was a case of circumstantial or questionable evidence, regarding who was even involved at all with potentially exculpatory evidence either hidden or yet to be discovered that can be brought on appeal.

I guess anything is possible, but the jury's decision itself, whether someone believes it was the right decision or not, is not really appealable, unless we find out that they were given incorrect instructions or something (but this was heavily covered so that should have been caught).




They deliberated less than ten hours for a trail that took weeks to present the evidence. The jurors all live in the area and are afraid the mob will come after them if they do anything other than convict on all charges. There were activists in the courtroom taking pictures of the jury. Do you think they were doing that to get their autographs later? The jury was not sequestered they could see what the mob was capable of. The jury was intimated and there is no way Chauvin could have received a fair trial anywhere in the state. With the way these mobs are organized it is possible to argue that there is no place in the country he could get a fair trial unless the location of the trial is never revealed. Anywhere you go to try him the mob will follow and threaten everyone involved and the entire community if anything other conviction of all charges is the result. This isn't justice. This is vigilantism.
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