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re: Chauvin Verdict reached...GUILTY - ALL COUNTS

Posted on 4/21/21 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/21/21 at 5:39 pm to
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I didn't say how I think it went, mensa, nor do I care what a bunch of paid witnesses say. I said he apparently had a potentially lethal amount of drugs in his system. If one of those people refuted the toxicology report and proved that it was false, then you've responded intelligently to my point. Otherwise.......




Multiple witnesses said - in trial - it was not a lethal quantity. Several said it was less than DUI cases involving fenatyl.

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 I don’t think anybody’s refuted the fact that he had a potentially lethal amount of drugs in his system.


This is your quote. Both parts are wrong.
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 5:43 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21731 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 5:44 pm to
Reading is fundamental.
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nor do I care what a bunch of paid witnesses say.


And I'm sorry that your education failed you and that you don't understand what "potential" means.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 4/21/21 at 6:09 pm to
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And I'm sorry that your education failed you and that you don't understand what "potential" means.


I could take a "potentially" lethal amount of aspirin with one pill. It's nebulous and meaningless, which is why the experts in the field use statistical likelihood.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/21/21 at 6:33 pm to
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I could take a "potentially" lethal amount of aspirin with one pill. It's nebulous and meaningless, which is why the experts in the field use statistical likelihood.



That cuts both ways; any amount could have potentially not killed him. Didn't one of the witnesses for the prosecution, presumably an expert in the field, admit under oath that if he found a person dead in their apartment with that amount he'd rule it an OD?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/21/21 at 6:45 pm to
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Bill Barr would not take potential federal charges off the table if Chauvin pleaded guilty. As a result, they didn't plea to 3rd-degree manslaughter. Buckeye is right.


That is possibly factually correct but that was not what was written nor the actual words used. There is nothing mentioning federal charges pending, thus my response. Further Barr should not have that ability even though they are federal. Also are you not surprised no federal charges brought?
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9932 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:13 pm to
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That cuts both ways; any amount could have potentially not killed him


Holy shite lmao
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21731 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 7:21 pm to
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Holy shite lmao


Laugh your arse off all you want, but can you answer the question?
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Didn't one of the witnesses for the prosecution, presumably an expert in the field, admit under oath that if he found a person dead in their apartment with that amount he'd rule it an OD?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6495 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Laugh your arse off all you want, but can you answer the question?
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Didn't one of the witnesses for the prosecution, presumably an expert in the field, admit under oath that if he found a person dead in their apartment with that amount he'd rule it an OD?


to help you out that was referring to a hypothetical based upon the absence of all other findings and facts that applied to the real-world situation. Its a cute hypothetical the defense sold you on.
you may as well say that hypothetically the only way a fair game of rock paper scissors can be played is as long as my opponent can only use scissors. obviously in reality thats not a fair game, but this is a hypothetical situation so its fair because I said so.



GF's fentanyl level (.011 micrograms/ml) is less than half the mean all-cause fentanyl OD level (.024 micrograms/ml). It is less than 33% of the mean fentanyl OD (.034micrograms/ml) in the setting of mixed drug intoxication which is the most fitting comparison to make.
considering the actual reality of circumstances, not one of the medical professionals would claim there was a fatal OD.... it required an extreme imaginary scenario to even entertain.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/21/21 at 8:31 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9932 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Laugh your arse off all you want, but can you answer the question?


I'm sorry, but someone beat me. You already said you didn't pay attention to the trial. Had you done so you'd have a much better view of what the experts actually said.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21731 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 9:58 pm to
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Had you done so you'd have a much better view of what the experts actually said.


Which experts? The ones called by the defense or the ones called by the prosecution? That's why I said, and you seem to keep missing it, that I don't care what paid mouthpieces say. I don't care what the prosecution's said and I don't care what Chauvin's said. You, I suspect, are selective in which experts matter and which don't.
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/22/21 at 2:02 am to
Give it up fish boy. You lose. Game over.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9932 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 6:38 am to
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Which experts? The ones called by the defense or the ones called by the prosecution?


Both.
Posted by AUbagman
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Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:40 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 3:33 am
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