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re: Charges against parents of Michigan school shooter
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:51 am to BigDawg0420
Posted on 12/3/21 at 11:51 am to BigDawg0420
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Careless, reckless or negligent use of firearms; penalty. Any person who, because of carelessness, recklessness or negligence, but not wilfully or wantonly, shall cause or allow any firearm under his immediate control, to be discharged so as to kill or injure another person, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than 1 year, in the discretion of the court.
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Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:04 pm to Indefatigable
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Storing it carelessly or negligently in a manner that allows it to be used to injure another would fall under that statue.
Except that the statute says nothing about storage, careless or otherwise. It talks about a weapon under someone’s immediate control.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 12:55 pm to Music_City_Tiger
When do we start charging parents of kids in street gangs?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:15 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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No you’re not. Not at all in fact.
At 15 my daddy bought me a 22 and it stayed under my drivers seat for years. The shotgun cabinet was never locked and I remember having access to all his guns for as far back as I can remember.
I never dreamed of grabbing one, much less shooting someone.
We have a sin problem, not a gun problem.
My son has had his own weapon since he was in utero. He’s 4 so he doesn’t have access to it but he will be taught gun safety and will have access to it before he is 18, barring any warning signs that he would be a danger to himself or others.
It’s been stated that the kid was in trouble for drawing bloodied people, guns and captioning these pictures "the thoughts won't stop, help me," "blood everywhere," "my life is useless" and "the world is dead.” If he was doing stuff like that before that day and the parents knew about it, they should have kept their guns away from him.
If you were drawing/saying stuff like that, your daddy should have taken your 22 away. If my kid is drawing/saying stuff like that, I will not give him easy access to guns. That doesn’t mean I want the government taking away 2A rights, that means I’m a responsible parent.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:25 pm to Lightning
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It’s been stated that the kid was in trouble for drawing bloodied people, guns and captioning these pictures "the thoughts won't stop, help me," "blood everywhere," "my life is useless" and "the world is dead.” If he was doing stuff like that before that day and the parents knew about it, they should have kept their guns away from him.
They didn't. This was THE DAY OF the shooting. The school called them up for a conference because they were alarmed about this, and then the parents left. Apparently the school wasn't too alarmed, because they didn't search his backpack or suspend him...
Why would the parents think he had a gun on him if they were called up to the school and it was never mentioned that he had a gun on him?
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:31 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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No you’re not. Not at all in fact.
frick off guy. I've been hunting since I was 5 years old and my grandpa bought me my first shotgun at 8. I learned from a young age the tenets of firearm ownership and like you have had access to guns my whole life. I was simply trying to surmise what they could possibly charge the parents with. I don't know how you took my statement as me saying we have a gun problem. I don't believe that at all. I think the problem we have in society is a lack of responsible adult supervision. The shooter exhibited plenty of warning signs that not only his parents but school administrators should have picked up on. The type of warning signs that might lead one to not have a gun readily accessible for a troubled teen.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:34 pm to BigDawg0420
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frick off guy. I've been hunting since I was 5 years old and my grandpa bought me my first shotgun at 8. I learned from a young age the tenets of firearm ownership and like you have had access to guns my whole life. I was simply trying to surmise what they could possibly charge the parents with. I don't know how you took my statement as me saying we have a gun problem. I don't believe that at all. I think the problem we have in society is a lack of responsible adult supervision. The shooter exhibited plenty of warning signs that not only his parents but school administrators should have picked up on. The type of warning signs that might lead one to not have a gun readily accessible for a troubled teen.
School officials own full responsibility for this. They should have searched the kids backpack that day. They apparently thought he was enough of a threat to call his parents, but not enough of a threat to search his backpack/locker/person/etc. If they had done that, then this shooting never happens.
It's the not parents' fault the school was simply pretending their child was a threat instead of actually treating him like one.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:37 pm to Music_City_Tiger
The parents handed their unstable son the fricking murder weapon and knew.
Kill the kid, parents jailed for life.
Kill the kid, parents jailed for life.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:40 pm to imjustafatkid
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It's the not parents' fault the school was simply pretending their child was a threat instead of actually treating him like one.
your defense will help in the civil lawsuits incoming.
school and parents % can be subject in court.
but in that state theyve made parents responsible in criminal law. so i heard in the car.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:41 pm to CelticDog
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but in that state theyve made parents responsible in criminal law. so i heard in the car.
I don't see how that's possible in this case. Why would the parents suspect he had stolen their gun the day they were called into school about him drawing guns depicting himself killing people? I don't see how this possibly holds up in court and if they don't have an attorney who makes this argument then they are getting ripped off.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:44 pm to Lightning
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If you were drawing/saying stuff like that, your daddy should have taken your 22 away. If my kid is drawing/saying stuff like that, I will not give him easy access to guns. That doesn’t mean I want the government taking away 2A rights, that means I’m a responsible parent.
That goes without saying but that’s not what many are saying nor what I replied to.
There isn’t anything wrong with minors In general having access to weapons. I always knew where my parents guns were. Even as a young child I knew about the pistol in the nightstand, the shotguns, rifles, etc.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 1:53 pm to BigDawg0420
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frick off guy. I've been hunting since I was 5 years old and my grandpa bought me my first shotgun at 8. I learned from a young age the tenets of firearm ownership and like you have had access to guns my whole life. I was simply trying to surmise what they could possibly charge the parents with. I don't know how you took my statement as me saying we have a gun problem. I don't believe that at all. I think the problem we have in society is a lack of responsible adult supervision. The shooter exhibited plenty of warning signs that not only his parents but school administrators should have picked up on. The type of warning signs that might lead one to not have a gun readily accessible for a troubled teen.
No, you can GFY. That is NOT what you originally said. You made the typical gun control statement about having to secure firearms to make them inaccessible to unsupervised children and the mentally ill.
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I am as big of a defender of the 2nd Amendment as anyone. With that being said, the right to bear arms comes with great responsibility. That responsibility includes securing firearms in a way that prevents them from falling into the unsupervised hands of children, mentally ill, etc.
Clearly you don’t keep one out with a mentally disturbed person (adult nor minor) in the home but gun owners should never have to worry about being held liable nor be told how to store their guns in their home.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:01 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:Um...it was very well known at the time that it was a Challenger.
Seriously, does anyone know the type of vehicle the Charlottesville guy used?
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:02 pm to GhostOfFreedom
quote:Everyone here blames parents for everything. But actual accountability? Nah.
Parents should be charged for letting an unstable brat get access to their firearms.
I have no problem with underage mature and stable kids having access, but the parents should have been more careful.
I feel the same about pit bull owners. Fine, have the dog, but get charged with murder if it mauls someone to death.
Charge these parents with murder. imho.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:07 pm to dgnx6
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Kill the kid,
damn son
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:09 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Everyone here blames parents for everything.
Yours should definitely be blamed.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:09 pm to LSUAngelHere1
quote:Some parents apparently do need to be told how to store their guns.
Clearly you don’t keep one out with a mentally disturbed person (adult nor minor) in the home but gun owners should never have to worry about being held liable nor be told how to store their guns in their home.
BTW, the parents are apparently on the run right now.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:11 pm to mmcgrath
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the parents are apparently on the run right now.
Wow.
Could turn into more drama.
This post was edited on 12/3/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:12 pm to Music_City_Tiger
Its been reported the dad bought the kid the gun. The guy who bought Kleighbold and Harris guns was charged and served a couple years in prison. Dad should absolutely be held accountable.
Posted on 12/3/21 at 2:22 pm to themunch
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It's the not parents' fault the school was simply pretending their child was a threat instead of actually treating him like one.
Are you kidding me? If I'm called to school for anything. I want to see that kid NOW! Not tomorrow not next week ...NOW!
Had a Guidance Counselor tell me "I'm impressed, he's actually afraid of you. Most parents never react."
"As long as he fears me, I have control, the moment I lose that ... he's everyone's problem, not just mine."
Mine was over His 25 unexcused absences for Algebra ...
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