re: Cenk Uygur (Young Turks) Now Rejects Official 9/11 Narrative

So he’s professing belief in an older conspiracy theory to pull cover for his previous disbelief in a more recent conspiracy theory that is very inconvenient for his side?

How brave.

thanks. Once the background level of trust drops, it’s surprisingly easy for even smart people to start connecting dots differently than they would have before. It obviously gets more complex than that when there are things like audience incentives, but that's a piece of it, as I see it, and it's probably good to keep separating “something feels off” from “this specific explanation is supported”.

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Don’t blame you. Between fraudulent job numbers or inflation or Covid, I certainly don’t trust a word they say - including Orange although he tends to act on what he says.

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Seriously...going back to 9/11, some of the head scratchers for me are these devout Muslims willing to crash planes into things the very next day going to skrip clubs and drinking the night before. WTC Building 7. The immediacy of which the hijackers were identified after the fact but they couldn't figure out what was going on in the slightest before the attack to prevent it. Saudi involvement but that gets overlooked basically. How controlled the towers falling looked, that was a gut utterance on my part as they were falling, that it looked like a controlled demolition. There's a lot of other things that just don't make sense about it.

Yes, I agree. The situation around TPUSA and the speculation circulating after Kirk’s death seems to be a good example because you can see how quickly suspicion can turn inward even within communities that otherwise share a lot of alignment. When trust gets low, groups start to struggle to draw lines between legitimate questions and narratives and trust among allies starts eroding. Another example is Jim Stewartson and his "BlueAnon" coterie, when he started saying wacky things like QAnon is a Russian-created op. It makes me wonder what about our current media/social-media environment just makes these spirals easier to fall into.

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what did epstein know?

the turkish gypsy needs money, so spin a "jews did it" conspiracy to bring the views,clicks and donations.

it was probably hasan who got him into it

Why hasn’t Al Qaeda been able to pull it off since then?! For starters, that question is nonsensical because Osama bin Laden went into hiding and was their funding source and secondly there have been numerous attacks by Al Qaeda splinter groups since 9/11 in Indonesia, Spain, and London or have you forgotten the night club explosions, commuter train explosion, and bus explosions. Some of y’all live in fantasy worlds. If you want to argue the US could have and should have been able to prevent the attacks then you have an argument but this controlled demolition and Al Qaeda couldn’t do it is sheer stupidity

1. He knew all along.
or
2. He is so stupid with no new evidence he changes him mind more than a decade later.

Either way.... not good.

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On the found passport thing. He’s just now realizing this was total bullshite?

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Don't forget the relative silence for background noise on the calls made from the back of a moving aircraft.