re: Cenk Uygur (Young Turks) Now Rejects Official 9/11 Narrative

Oh brother. You know you believe in something stupid when this guy joins your team. This has to be deflating to Team 9/11.

Ah yes, the buildings didn’t collapse like I think they should have defense lol well stable genius how many buildings in the World that tall have been hit by a 747 on live tv? How did they collapse? And, were they full of thousands of gallons of jet fuel? Also, there is live footage of the steel beginning to soften and buckle just before it collapses. “It didn’t fall over like a tree in a cartoon therefore it must be fake”

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Note that you could pill yourself into believing virtually an CT that opposes an official account via this reasoning chain.

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Well… yeah.

We have all witnessed for ourselves how the government lies.

What’s new?

I’ll tell you what’s new… we witnessed how it is possible for “the whole of government” to lie, mislead, manipulate, etc…

Not just them but the trusty watchdogs of a free society, the ever vaunted “press”.

Not just them but our apolitical and most trusted “institutions”… CDC, FDA, the Fed, etc…

Not just them, but the holders of the keys to trajectory of our future, “academia”.

This isn’t just 9/11, Covid, JFK…. This is interest rates, voting machines, trans women are literally NO different than real women, puberty blockers and cross hormones are lifesaving care for children, Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, Fine People on Both Sides, this is Jussie Smollet, it is LaCross and Crystal Magnum, it is 1619, it is also BLM riots were more important than 6 feet separated, it is THREE funerals for a woman abusing drug addict that overdosed but grandma died alone and had a zoom funeral.

It is so much more, and all at once… it is a tipping point AND it is a passport in perfect shape.

I left a lot out. But my point is we’ve happily fed a little BS here and there from time to time… until the shite spigot got turned to high, for a sustained decade, and no matter where we turned it continuously blasted us all in the face. No escape. Not work was free of it, not school, not sports, not entertainment, not consumerism, not church, not family and friends relationships… all was tainted.

He's a muzzie Turk. the Muzzies blamed it on the US from Day 1.

It only took him 25 years to realize he was being lied to by the Government. It will take him 50 more years to figure out that it is his own side that is doing the lying.

I think what you’re describing, that sense of “it’s everywhere, across domains, all at once”, is something a lot of people have felt over the past decade. When trust takes repeated hits, it can start to feel less like evaluating individual claims and more like living in a general atmosphere of suspicion. In that environment the mind naturally starts linking very different events together and revisiting old ones through the same lens. Sometimes that surfaces real problems & sometimes it can also make unrelated things feel like part of a single pattern even when they may not be.

Probably worth keeping an eye on that distinction. Otherwise it’s easy for the feeling of “something’s off everywhere” to do more of the reasoning than the evidence itself.

That’s partly why I find Uygur’s turn interesting. When someone’s trust collapses publicly, especially someone with a large audience, there’s also a risk of audience feedback amplifying that shift. The more distrust resonates, the more the most distrust-affirming interpretations get rewarded. That dynamic can push almost anyone further than the underlying evidence alone might justify. And then their views feed back to their audience and you can see how it might snowball. In dramatic examples, it can end up in utter epistemic collapse (e.g. Candace Owen).

Lemme guess.

He thinks it was da Joos.

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Ah yes, the buildings didn’t collapse like I think they should have defense lol well stable genius how many buildings in the World that tall have been hit by a 747 on live tv?

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The structural arguments for the conspiracy theory collapse pretty quickly. You might say they go into free fall.

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It seems like he went from loss of institutional trust ("the government lies about Epstein" - ok so far), to therefore they were lying about 9/11, grabbed hold of an anomaly, used motivated re-interpretation to pill himself to trutherism.

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The explanation could be simpler than that. These guys get addicted to their ratings. Maybe he's just looking for ratings.