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re: Celina Midelfart might be what Trump is embarrassed about in relation to Epstein

Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:54 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:54 am to
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Keep asking... you'll get no answers.


GumboPot has this weird schtick where he debases himself by playing dumb when his theories have holes poked in them.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:56 am to
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The argument is that they only have information about Epstein, a man who is dead and died while being prosecuted for similar behavior.


Can we shift the argument to co-conspirators or do we need a new thread for that?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:57 am to
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She was arrested and convicted of sex trafficking without a single client.


Wrong.

Epstein was named. She was convicted of trafficking and grooming for/with Epstein.

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From at least 1994, up to and including in or about 2004, GHISLAINE MAXWELL assisted, facilitated, and participated in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse victims known to MAXWELL and Epstein to be under the age of 18. The victims were as young as 14 years old when they were groomed and abused by MAXWELL and Epstein, both of whom knew that their victims were in fact minors. As a part and in furtherance of their scheme to abuse minor victims, MAXWELL and Epstein enticed and caused minor victims to travel to Epstein’s residences in different states, which MAXWELL knew and intended would result in their grooming for and subjection to sexual abuse.

SDNY
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:58 am to
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Can we shift the argument to co-conspirators


Only if they exist, which doesn't appear to be likely after all of these document dumps.

That's the point of the political theater and bait/switch with these victims. It's the same dishonesty used by the DEMs trying to claim Trump engaged in illegality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:59 am to
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Epstein was named. She was convicted of trafficking and grooming for/with Epstein.


Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:59 am to
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Epstein was named. She was convicted of trafficking and grooming for/with Epstein.



And you actually believe that given what was released?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:59 am to
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GumboPot has this weird schtick where he debases himself by playing dumb when his theories have holes poked in them.


But you ask a question so I can assume you are asking because you don't know then I respond that I don't know too and I'm playing dumb?

To be fair this is one of the weaknesses of message board banter. I can't see your body language or hear your voice inflection to tell if your question was rhetorical or not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 7:59 am to
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And you actually believe that given what was released?


What has been released only strengthens that.

What direct, credible evidence do you have about others?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:01 am to
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But you ask a question so I can assume you are asking because you don't know t

You're playing dumb again. I know the answer to the question. I'm posing it to you so you'll state that answer (presuming you'll engage honestly)

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I can't see your body language or hear your voice inflection to tell if your question was rhetorical or not.

It wasn't rhetorical. I just already know the answer.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:01 am to
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And you actually believe that given what was released?


Moving the goalpsts, are you?

You made a statement.

I debunked it.

Now we're on to "what we believe".

I think you are on the tail end of an all night Files Bender and probably need to get some sleep.

Posted by bgtiger
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:01 am to
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I’ve supported Trump since 2016, but if there really is a credible (not photoshopped) pic of him with girls in bikinis then that’s gonna do it for me


Is that sarcasm?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:02 am to
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What has been released only strengthens that.



Clearly, you aren't reading these files directly

Epstein was the outward facing person of the trafficking ring. She financed and enabled him to do so.

Ya'll logic is like saying Pablo Escobar didn't deal drugs to millions because he facilitated it via 2 people. You really think people buy that stupid logic?

This post was edited on 2/13/26 at 8:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:04 am to
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I know the answer to the question.


Okay, then what is preventing these victims from coming out publicly and giving specific details?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:05 am to
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Clearly, you aren't reading these files directly


"Directly" is a bad word. I think you mean "Interpretively"

What direct, credible evidence do you have about others engaging in sex trafficking from this document dump?

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Epstein was the outward facing person of the trafficking ring. She financed and enabled him to do so.

Ok cool theory. What direct-credible evidence are you using to support it?

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Ya'll logic is like saying Pablo Escobar didn't deal drugs to millions because he facilitated it via 2 people.

No we knew his operation, the supply chain, who he used in other countries, etc.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:06 am to
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Moving the goalpsts, are you?

You made a statement.

I debunked it.

Now we're on to "what we believe".

I think you are on the tail end of an all night Files Bender and probably need to get some sleep.


what goal posts have I moved. I have been extremely consistent. Facilitating to a distributor still entails distribution and distribution entails several other clients - which some have actually been named. See my lists on the other page for a simple primer. These people are starting to be NAMED.

Why are they and all the corrupt politicians who have stolen our money still walking around free after Trump's entire presidency was predicated on them all being in jail?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:06 am to
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Ya'll logic is like saying Pablo Escobar didn't deal drugs to millions because he facilitated it via 2 people. You really think people buy that stupid logic?


The Epstein shite stinks to high heaven.

No one disputes that.

Logic, however, dictates that for there to be coconspirators going down, there need be victims.

Victims, victims everywhere, but why aren't they talking? They dress up in matching shirts, raise their hands, get their pictures taken with all the hottest politicians... but why aren't they talking?

Don't tell me they are afraid. They are showing their faces.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:07 am to
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then what is preventing these victims from coming out publicly and giving specific details?








Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:07 am to
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I'm embarrassed for OP honestly


Yeah, he is injecting a lot of his conspiracy as fact in what he found. He is trying so very hard to connect dots. It's pretty amusing to watch him self destruct and turn to the "CULT", Yawn.
Posted by RollTide4547
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:08 am to
Younger Trump liked HOT PoonTang? Say it ain't so!
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:08 am to
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what goal posts have I moved. I have been extremely consistent. Facilitating to a distributor still entails distribution and distribution entails several other clients


Simple. THAT is not what GM was convicted of.

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Why are they and all the corrupt politicians who have stolen our money still walking around free after Trump's entire presidency was predicated on them all being in jail?


Because, unlike what his detractors tell you, he isn't a dictator.

Hell, I wish he were a dictator... at least for like a month or two.

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