re: Catholic Church freaking out at losing cash cow: just issued new immigration statement

Also of note, which I believe most non Catholics are unaware of, nobody is monitoring your tithes to the church. More people don't drop money in the basket than those that do.

Ironically, the christians that broke away from the Church made sure to keep the money grubbing part, yet the followers still feel entitled to condescend out of pure hateful ignorance.

Sure chief. Heretics gonna heretic

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And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

~Matthew 16:18

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This has been misunderstood by Rome in order to support her authority.

There was a mix of interpretations of this passage by the early church fathers. Some believed the rock was Peter. Others believed it was Christ, Himself. Others still believed it was Peter's confession of Christ. Some thought it was a combination of options.

Elsewhere in the Bible Jesus is the rock and the cornerstone, and the apostles and prophets being the foundation with Christ as the cornerstone (like Eph. 2:20). The whole doctrine and dogma of the Papacy is essentially based on one verse that had multiple conflicting interpretations in the early Church.

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There has been an unbroken line of Apostolic succession from Peter to the current Pope. Jesus did not give us a Bible, that came after his Ascension,. He gave us a Church, and left it in Peter's hands to carry out, and every successor of Peter.

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Even if one were to agree that Peter is the rock that Christ was referring to, it doesn't follow that his authority was unique from the other apostles, or that his particular authority was transferrable to bishops throughout history. That's another non-biblical doctrine developed over time.

Church history actually shows us a different story. First, there were elders appointed in every congregation, and no elder was given more authority than another from the Scriptures. These presbyters over time saw one of their own in their midst as having primacy. Eventually a singular bishop became authoritative over a particular region, with each bishop having equal authority but distinguished jurisdiction. The bishop of Rome was given honor as being in the historical place where the church was strongest in knowledge and doctrine, was in the capital of the empire, and had more funds to help the other churches, and yet the bishop of Rome did not hold authoritative preeminence over the church for hundreds of years. It wasn't until the 300's that the roman bishop started making proclamations and decrees over the whole church, and even in the 400's, the Eastern churches rejected those claims to jurisdictional authority. Once the Roman Empire fell, we see Roman papal claims of authority increase and justifications created to support it, such as the Donations of Constantine, which was a forged documented believed to be authentic for hundreds of years to support papal authority.

Even so, the view of the papacy in the 20th and 21st centuries looked very different than the view of the papacy in the 12th century, which looked very different from the 8th century. For a dogma that all faithful Christians must embrace, the papacy has looked very different over the past millennia.

That doesn't even speak to the 40 or so years when there were three men who claimed the title of Pope in the 1300s and 1400s. There were people for about a generation that were born and died without knowing who the true Pope was. In the end, it was a council, not the office of the Papacy, that authoritatively settled the matter.

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Spoken like a true God hater.

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Extrapolate much?

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Sure chief. Heretics gonna heretic

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..."but I swung muh incense and told that priest feller about me and that alter boy..."

Your crucifix



Our crucifix

HE IS RISEN...NO LONGER ON THE CROSS...NO LONGER IN THE TOMB

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There has been an unbroken line of Apostolic succession from Peter to the current Pope.

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Yeah, you might want to do a little deeper research on that.

What we're seeing is a war between Christians, Jews, and Muslims for the power and resources of the West. Each group is willing to cozy up to another group to gain a tactical advantage. Look at how many Jews supported Mamdani in NYC. It's not that they like or agree with him. He's just a temporary useful idiot in furthering their goal of America's destabilization.

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Just a note: Catholics don't NEED anyone to go to God....it's just like a person knowing a person is about to go into surgery and them saying "I'll pray for you". All Catholics do is ask Saints to pray for our intentions to help us. We still ask God directly.

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Do you ever pray to a living (on earth) friend, asking them to pray for you?

I ask, because prayer is an act of worship. In the Bible, prayer is always something done to God (or to idols) as an act of worship, and is not said to be done directed towards the living. We can ask our friends something by directing speech to them, but when someone asks something of those in Heaven, they direct prayers to them.

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No, not any of the parishes ive been apart of.

They have different collections during mass before the eucharist. Like my church has one "general" tithe...then stuff for the elementary school, or maintenance, or parish staff who made need financial help.

Im sure some of the general tithing goes up to the diocese, even less to anything higher up .

We usually pull between 10-15K each week. That's im addition to the $50/month i provide for the creation of a new center behind our Church

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Have you requested to see the results of an audit?

Remember, these are the same people that told you pederasty within the clergy was a myth.

Catholic Church has zero say in US immigration- In fact they should pay back all the $$$$$$ they stole from members over the last 1000 yrs