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re: Caplan libertarian test

Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:24 pm to
Well, I don't believe in evil.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56544 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:25 pm to
Nietzsche says out of chaos comes order.

Blow it out your arse, Howard.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:26 pm to
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war,
Well, I'm anti-war so I'm going to have to disagree there.
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protection from eastern enemies,
Seems like all the state does is piss off people in the Middle East and ruin their lands, kill their families, and maybe kill a bad guy or two.
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and to jail criminals who threaten the stability of society.
I don't see many politicians going to jail.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73216 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:27 pm to
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I fail to see how these services (which I do think are necessary) require a monopoly, that's all.
There are private security companies, and even private contractors that kill brown enemies for us (blackwater), and we use private prisons. The state monopoly over education is far more troublesome than these other "monopolies" you decry.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56544 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:29 pm to
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even private contractors that kill brown enemies for us (blackwater), and we use private prisons.


They are privately owned, but they surely aren't getting their money from willing customers. They require the taxation force of government in order to operate.

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The state monopoly over education is far more troublesome than these other "monopolies" you decry.


I don't disagree.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:38 pm to
I'm an 87. Sounds about right really. Though a few of those questions I kind of wanted to say something between yes and no. IE, yes to a portion of the question, not to the breadth of the question
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78296 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 3:47 pm to
46 there are some ideas in here that are just so beyond a good idea

Like who would judge made or private law be better than Legislation?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43967 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 4:02 pm to
123. About where I expected.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 4:27 pm to
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quote:
51-90 points: You are a medium-core libertarian, probably self-consciously so. Your friends probably encourage you to quit talking about your views so much.
Nailed it.



Exactly, I scored an 83.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 4:45 pm to
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Your score is...

82

51-90 points: You are a medium-core libertarian, probably self-consciously so. Your friends probably encourage you to quit talking about your views so much.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 4:55 pm to
135

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116764 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:10 pm to
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135

You da man, Capt. Rusty!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78165 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:37 pm to
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If you believe that the state is immoral, are you saying that you would rather support an immoral system instead of trying something different?


It's naive to think that a private police force or private court system would be any less corrupt. Power over others corrupts people whether they work for the government or in a private setting.

Does the citizenry get to vote in the judges of these private courts or do they just pick Jim's Court house instead of Bob's? And how would the courts compete amongst each other? How would they enforce their judgements? By contracting with Boudreaux's local police force? "File your suit at Bob's and we'll let you fleece those bastards, and when they balk, Boudreaux's will kick their door in and beat the crap out of them." When that goes on in the current system there is generally some accountability via Internal Affairs departments or otherwise. But if law is privatized, who is to say what is to be held as a violation?
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 5:39 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56544 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:47 pm to
This may answer some of your questions regarding polycentric law: Machinery of Freedom
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116764 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:52 pm to
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It's naive to think that a private police force or private court system would be any less corrupt.

You don't get it. When you go govt it is a dictatorship... think your last trip to the DMV. We are the govt. There is no alternative.

Private police/courts = competition, free market, efficiency. We're not gonna just replace the ONE govt police with the ONE private police.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
81912 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:09 pm to
Yeah, some of the questions were pretty vague or just pretty ridiculous overall
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:18 pm to
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They're needed to protect freedom


You mean the petro dollar system.

And the occasional overthrow of democratically elected regimes in favor of ones that will listen to us.

Among other fun and heroic duties.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17674 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 6:54 pm to
Poorly written quiz. Too many questions allowed for misinterpretation or weren't specific enough. And it doesn't differentiate between levels of government. (Zoning, for instance, should be regulated at the local level, IMHO)

This is an anarchist quiz, not a libertarian quiz.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78165 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:08 pm to
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We're not gonna just replace the ONE govt police with the ONE private police.


I think it was obvious in my post that I don't think that. My questions had to do with how multiple private police forces or private courts would compete with each other. How would they enforce anything?

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You don't get it.



I don't think you get my previous post.I get it, just don't know how it would work.

Didn't they have something like private police and fire companies in the 1800's. Weren't they corrupt as hell?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:10 pm to
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Didn't they have something like private police and fire companies in the 1800's. Weren't they corrupt as hell?


Very much like the private armies roaming the globe right now.
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