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Can’t congress pass a law making abortion legal nationwide?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:25 pm
It might get struck down, but why if that is what democrats want haven’t they done so? Couldn’t they try to use commerce clause to do this?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:27 pm to Dawgfanman
They’ve had the option to amend the Constitution and make abortion an actual Constitutional right, instead of a made up right that they can use in front of TV cameras.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:28 pm to Dawgfanman
Congress could pass a law tomorrow and it would be perfectly legal.
The problem is that abortion isn't really as popular as they want you to believe, that's why it hasn't been passed in 50 years - even when Dems had the House and 60+ in the Senate.
The problem is that abortion isn't really as popular as they want you to believe, that's why it hasn't been passed in 50 years - even when Dems had the House and 60+ in the Senate.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:29 pm to Dawgfanman
Sure, If they get rid of the filibuster.
And then when the Republicans take over they can pass a law banning abortions nationwide.
At least now for Democrats, the way it stands, abortion will be legal in about half the states.
I don’t think anyone wants to see the right to an abortion keep going back-and-forth for the next couple hundred years depending on who is in charge of Congress and the presidency.
And then when the Republicans take over they can pass a law banning abortions nationwide.
At least now for Democrats, the way it stands, abortion will be legal in about half the states.
I don’t think anyone wants to see the right to an abortion keep going back-and-forth for the next couple hundred years depending on who is in charge of Congress and the presidency.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:30 pm to anc
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Congress could pass a law tomorrow and it would be perfectly legal. The problem is that abortion isn't really as popular as they want you to believe, that's why it hasn't been passed in 50 years - even when Dems had the House and 60+ in the Senate.
So democrats lack the political will to protect “womens’ rights”?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:30 pm to Dawgfanman
What part of the Constitution grants them the ability to do that? I'd be the USSC would strike it down because of the 10th Amendment and probably gut some of the commerce clause overreach too.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:31 pm to Malik Agar
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probably gut some of the commerce clause overreach too.
I think this is probably why they don’t
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:31 pm to anc
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The problem is that abortion isn't really as popular as they want you to believe, that's why it hasn't been passed in 50 years - even when Dems had the House and 60+ in the Senate.
Wouldn’t the only way to guarantee it would hold up would be to make it a constitutional embedment? Would never get through constitutional convention and get 3/5 of states.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:33 pm to Dawgfanman
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Can’t congress pass a law making abortion legal nationwide?
Likely.
Hell, Biden can probably issue some EOs that make states with restrictive abortion laws bend the knee.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:34 pm to Malik Agar
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What part of the Constitution grants them the ability to do that?
The current ICC interpretation is very broad, and abortions rely on all sorts of instruments of "interstate commerce".
If not a direct law, they can tie federal funding of health-related spending (like Medicaid) to abortion laws. That would almost assuredly pass constitutional muster.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:35 pm to Lsut81
Yep.
They can pass a law but as soon as the other side gets power they can reverse it. The only way for it to be a constitutional right to put it in the constitution. But they need 36 state legislatures to ratify it. Not happening.
They can pass a law but as soon as the other side gets power they can reverse it. The only way for it to be a constitutional right to put it in the constitution. But they need 36 state legislatures to ratify it. Not happening.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:36 pm to Dawgfanman
I think the Dems first thought when the heard the leak about this was “The Supreme Court just bailed our arse out this fall.”
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:38 pm to Swazla
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I think the Dems first thought when the heard the leak about this was “The Supreme Court just bailed our arse out this fall.”
How? They won’t do anything to protect “women’s’ rights” and they have all the power they currently need to do so. How will electing more democrats change the decision?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:40 pm to Dawgfanman
There is no federal power to regulate abortion.
See: Dobbs.
No. Congress cannot pass legislation pro or anti abortion. Legislating on the topic is a power left to the states.
See: Dobbs.
No. Congress cannot pass legislation pro or anti abortion. Legislating on the topic is a power left to the states.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:40 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:Dems have had Congressional SUPERMAJORITIES on 3 occasions since Roe. They could have passed anything they wanted .... they did not care about "dreamers" rights .... they did not care about abortion "rights". Yet their used pawns keep voting for more of the same.
Couldn’t they try to use commerce clause to do this?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:46 pm to Dawgfanman
That was the ruling…. And thus why Roe was always a bad decision IMO. You can’t nuance protection rights into the constitution
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:46 pm to Wednesday
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There is no federal power to regulate abortion.
If there is a federal power to regulate racism via ICC, then I can see that there is a federal power to regulate an act that involves many more steps in the ICC chain.
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See: Dobbs.
Where in the case did the court state that there is no federal power to regulate abortion?
Also, this is ignoring Congress's ability to withhold medically-related federal funding from states who enact certain abortion restrictions. What would prevent Congress from doing that?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:52 pm to Dawgfanman
They've had 50 years to do it.
And for 50 years the law profession on both sides have raked in a few dollars.
Abortion and the war on drugs are a pretty lucrative for that industry.
And for 50 years the law profession on both sides have raked in a few dollars.
Abortion and the war on drugs are a pretty lucrative for that industry.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Would they have the balls to do it? Half the country would see that as end a rounding the highest court in the land.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 5:56 pm to Jcorye1
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Would they have the balls to do it? Half the country would see that as end a rounding the highest court in the land
No, the SCOTUS didn’t make a ruling in any federal legislation or cases involving it today.
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