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re: Canada set to surpass 100,000 assisted suicides — more than the country’s WWII death toll

Posted on 3/8/26 at 7:30 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 7:30 am to
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Do you think pro life is precise?


In discussions around abortions, I typically describe myself as anti-abortion. In discussions around capital punishment, I typically describe myself as anti-death penalty. Comprehensively, I’m pro-life from conception to natural death.

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You are obviously a pro choice person who claims to be "pro life" only as lie to others.

How did you draw this conclusion? What evidence informs your claim?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 7:33 am to
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Join the club I said the same thing to Jbird a few days ago.


Aligning yourself with a poster who mostly responds to posts with laughing emojis or short insults in order to form some sort or alliance against me is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 7:41 am to
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No, I'm just an idiot, I guess. *sigh*


You can’t argue with my point so you’re lashing out at me for not understanding what you actually meant by your verbose explanation in response to a simple yes/no question.

Not personal. I think you are a reasonable person— definitely one of the more reasonable contributors here. You have the capacity to change your mind which is unusual around here.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16777 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 8:43 am to
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Those numbers are astounding, and I am one who fully supports assisted suicides for terminal illness/end of live




It's worse than you think. There are long waits for medical procedures and doctors are suggesting suicide for people who are in pain and can't get help quickly. They also suggest it for depression. I heard a story of a veteran in a wheelchair who needed a ramp built to get in and out of the house and their VA suggested suicide.

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Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
4237 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:19 am to
Out of that stack of passports Epstein had, was one of them Canadian? It could have been a government assisted suicide.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 9:48 am to
Canada is gay.

Happy for them.
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7950 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:19 am to
The y should set up a shop right outside of parliament.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7970 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 10:50 am to
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In discussions around abortions, I typically describe myself as anti-abortion.

Yes that means nothing coming from you.

Look at this bold attempt to yet again doge the question.

Do you support laws making abortion a crime, or do you support laws allowing women the choice to abort their unborn child.

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In discussions around capital punishment, I typically describe myself as anti-death penalty.

Unrelated to the question, an attempt to pivot from the topic that you do not want to admit.
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How did you draw this conclusion? What evidence informs your claim?

You've had many opportunities to say "I think Abortion should be illegal", but you haven't... we all know why.

Because you just leverage Joe Biden's empty slogan:
"I'm personally against abortion, im personally pro life... but I voted pro choice because I dont think the government should be making decisions for women on abortion... etc..."

You would fight tooth and nail to keep abortion legal even if you see yourself as pro life.

You attempted to deceive every person you said you were pro life to. You knew what they would assume and you knew that if you went into detail that they would decide that you were actually pro choice when it comes to laws.
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2551 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 11:27 am to
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Its kind of astounding you believe it, or any decision lole this, ends there. It never can. Not with humans. Once you allow someone to define "my life is over, I cant live anymore," you not only allow it for others and their own definition, but you incentive it.

I know you'll say, "but they need to have an actual terminal illness," but on what scale? On what timeliness of death?

Humans dont limit their passions. And that goes to both the ones getting euthanized and the ones who benefit from it.

I get your perspective, but it lacks any true understanding of the world.


It's kind of astounding and you claim he/she "lacks any true understanding" of the world because they support assisted suicided for terminal illnesses. The Canadian government isn't going into people's homes and saying "your time's up, take the needle". And while the inclusion of mental illness is a mistake, it doesn't serve to prove your point since you seem to be saying anyone with a terminal illness should not have the right to end their life if they feely choose to do so, and/or that it will allow goverment to take control of endoflife decisions. Astounding and arrogant you think that.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 12:40 pm to
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Do you support laws making abortion a crime, or do you support laws allowing women the choice to abort their unborn child.

I don’t support any laws. About anything.

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You've had many opportunities to say "I think Abortion should be illegal", but you haven't... we all know why.

Laws don’t stop women from getting abortions. Laws just punish people for doing the undesirable thing after the fact.

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You would fight tooth and nail to keep abortion legal even if you see yourself as pro life.


You’ve just trolling me at this point.

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You attempted to deceive every person you said you were pro life to. You knew what they would assume and you knew that if you went into detail that they would decide that you were actually pro choice when it comes to laws.

You’re nothing if not committed to this heroic troll.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 1:36 pm to
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agony and helpless.



Again, I get the ask and the want. Im not going to argue from a Christian perspective.

But from a rational one, how the heck do you define that in a way from any one perspective and then not from someone else's perspective?
Agony is not quantifiable. It is not something g we can measure. It is oth a psychological and indeterminate physical state.


Why is someone on Cancer at 75, amd maybe a 20% chance to live any different from someone at 35 with a 60% chance to live? Like, how do you say one is in more agony than the other?

You cant. Even the numbers dont matter here.

What if that 35 year old doesn't believe they will live? Doesn't believe the pain is worth it? To them.

Once you allow the 75 year old to make that determination,you have no grounding to say the 35 year old cant make the same choice.
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7970 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 2:23 pm to
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I don’t support any laws. About anything.

So you support women having a choice to kill their children.

You have made it clear you don't support God's laws, you made that obvious, you don't support the laws of this country.

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Laws don’t stop women from getting abortions. Laws just punish people for doing the undesirable thing after the fact.


While this is a ridiculous view, you very clearly are on the pro-choice side.

After at least two years of trying to deceive people with your wording.

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You’ve just trolling me at this point.

No, you are just lying again and again, you are as truthful as a man saying he is a woman.
Just because he convinced himself it's true, doesn't make it true.

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You’re nothing if not committed to this heroic troll.

There is nothing trolling about this, deceit is your nature.

You are at very least a heretic in your views, one who through deceit and omission is "teaching catechism"

I tell you when I'm trolling, I am not trolling.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 3:31 pm to
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So you support women having a choice to kill their children.


This is an emotional straw man.

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You have made it clear you don't support God's laws, you made that obvious, you don't support the laws of this country.


Emotional ad hominem.

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While this is a ridiculous view, you very clearly are on the pro-choice side.



You don’t care about outcomes. You don’t seem to actually care about the babies or mothers. You clearly only care about legislation. I don’t care about legislation. I care about the lives. That’s the disconnect. You are upset that I’m not advocating for laws and instead am concerned with lives destroyed by abortion.

You and FooMan want argue everything through legalese and technicalities instead of simply using common sense.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47810 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 3:34 pm to
White people seem deadset on getting rid of themselves
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21923 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 3:36 pm to
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I don’t support any laws. About anything.


I sincerely do not understand how this worldview meshes with Christianity. Or society at all, really.

You say you don't support laws about anything... but have also stated you're against vengeance of any kind.

Do you not understand that it is laws and consequences that restrain man's basic instinct for vengeance? Biblically and secularly?

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41748 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 3:45 pm to
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I care about the lives.


You do care about career criminals who harm innocent Americans. You don’t care about those victims at all.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 4:02 pm to
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I sincerely do not understand how this worldview meshes with Christianity. Or society at all, really.


How? People murder and rape and steal every single day. Laws don’t stop people who want to hurt other people. Pass laws or don’t pass them. Outcomes will be the same regardless.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21923 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 4:06 pm to
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How? People murder and rape and steal every single day. Laws don’t stop people who want to hurt other people. Pass laws or don’t pass them. Outcomes will be the same regardless.


No, outcomes will not be the same.

Ideally, people who commit crimes are restrained from further doing so by being removed from the very society they acted against.

Think of all the murderers currently incarcerated... they aren't killing people in society anymore. Or raping.

Laws aren't the problem, nor are they the full solution. To work in society's favor, consequences must be applied in support of laws.

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 4:09 pm to
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Laws don’t stop women from getting abortions. Laws just punish people for doing the undesirable thing after the fact.


Can’t argue with this. I don’t think the law thing is influential anymore. We are far too gone. Most women do not even care about how they are perceived to the outside world anymore as seen by their behavior.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61466 posts
Posted on 3/8/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Ideally, people who commit crimes are restrained from further doing so by being removed from the very society they acted against.


Laws don’t restrain them, detention does.

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Think of all the murderers currently incarcerated... they aren't killing people in society anymore.

You seem to believe most murders are committed by bloodthirsty people who just want to murder someone - anyone. That’s not how it works, generally. Most homicides are situational and relational, not random predation.

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Laws aren't the problem,
I never called them a problem.

I’m calling an uber to the Barbie game. Can’t wait to drink $30 coors lights and dance around
This post was edited on 3/8/26 at 4:32 pm
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