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re: Can we agree to stop with the religious persecution of other Christians?
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:25 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:25 am to FooManChoo
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You're referring to Christian beliefs in a mocking way by calling it "magic" over and over again.
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mocking
You're reading that into it. I'm not mocking anyone. There is nothing wrong with saying Christians attempt to practice magic. It's a simple fact.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:27 am to BoarEd
I don't really care what people believe. I'm more concerned with how they act. I know Christians from multiple sects. Some are good people. Some not so much. Doesn't appear that the variety of their faith has much to do with it.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:28 am to Powerman
Right. And the same can be said if people of all religious backgrounds.
Which, when it comes to the subject matter of this particular thread, I would say, "only if we can stop persecuting people of all religious backgrounds - period." It's frickin childish.
Which, when it comes to the subject matter of this particular thread, I would say, "only if we can stop persecuting people of all religious backgrounds - period." It's frickin childish.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 11:31 am
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:30 am to BoarEd
quote:Not according to Christians, though.
You're reading that into it. I'm not mocking anyone. There is nothing wrong with saying Christians attempt to practice magic. It's a simple fact.
Have I or any other professing Christians on this board told you that we practice or attempt to practice magic, or described what we believe about God and His works in creation as "magic"? If so, I'm curious who has said that.
I know I haven't.
It's condescending and absolutely not factual to describe Christian beliefs as "magic", because we don't believe it to be "magic", nor describe it as such.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:31 am to FooManChoo
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because we don't believe it to be "magic", nor describe it as such.
Doesn't make a bit of difference.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:35 am to theballguy
Sorry but there is a line somewhere.
Conservative Baptists, Catholics, lutherans, non denoms, orthodox?, .......are disagreeing Christians.
Liberal woke places are mockery and parodies of traditional Chrsitianity. Many of the places don't deserve to be called Christian.
A Missouri synod lutheran has more in common with a traditional Catholic than an ELCA lutheran.
Either you follow the Bible and original church traditions or you conform to the world's current culture. Can't do both.
Conservative Baptists, Catholics, lutherans, non denoms, orthodox?, .......are disagreeing Christians.
Liberal woke places are mockery and parodies of traditional Chrsitianity. Many of the places don't deserve to be called Christian.
A Missouri synod lutheran has more in common with a traditional Catholic than an ELCA lutheran.
Either you follow the Bible and original church traditions or you conform to the world's current culture. Can't do both.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:35 am to BoarEd
quote:It does if you're going to claim you aren't being antagonistic to Christians.
Doesn't make a bit of difference.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:35 am to Champagne
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You know very well that the OP of that other thread was in bad faith, and you are ALSO in bad faith because you jumped on it like a duck on a june bug, as you always do.
The OP of the locked thread revealed his bad faith in the threat title itself, which was couched in attack-mode language and not presented as a kind invite to discuss Theology.
Considering you never once even attempted to address any point being made by anyone in that thread but instead just complained to the mods and got it deleted, while also saying some fairly nasty stuff, who was acting in bad faith? That thread only spiraled because you can't start a thread that touches on Catholicism without a cascade of that of whining. It's weird, threads critical Islam, Judaism, or other branches of Christianity don't get whacked, just the Catholic ones.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:36 am to theballguy
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For those who insist on doing this, can we at least agree to stop with the religious persecution of other Christians on this board?
Who is being persecuted? And who is doing the persecuting?
Posted on 7/3/26 at 11:59 am to theballguy
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Can we agree to stop with the religious persecution of other Christians?
Do you mean disagreement and argument?
Or are you referring to to actual persecution such as the kidnapping, rape, forced conversions and murder that go on in the Muslim world?
Or when leftists punish Christians for following their beliefs?
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can we at least agree to stop with the religious persecution of other Christians on this board?
... I'm not sure persecution is the right word, considering the actual persecution going on.
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You'd be surprised that politically, we mostly agree on the same things.
I agree with Atheists on many things as well.
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Furthermore, you might be surprised that theologically speaking we do agree on most things there as well.
This is vague, are you talking about just the Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic divide?
The far left protestants who support transing of kids and LGBT in ministry?
Or are you talking about Mormon/Jehovah's Witness/Unitarians?
I think iron sharpens iron, Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants should continue to engage in respectful criticism of each other's views.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:05 pm to theballguy
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For those who insist on doing this, can we at least agree to stop with the religious persecution of other Christians on this board?
As someone who isn't a regular in Political Talk, I have a sincere question: Who is being persecuted, and who is doing the persecuting?
I'm a Christian, and I believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I believe we are all sinners, separated from God because of our sin. Yet God loved us so much that He sent His only Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross, taking upon Himself my sin, guilt, and shame. He was buried and rose again, conquering sin and death. Because of His sacrifice and resurrection, anyone who places their faith in Him can receive forgiveness, new life, and the gift of eternal life.
If I'm criticized, mocked, or even persecuted because of that belief, then so be it. Jesus told His followers this would happen. In Matthew 5:11–12, He said: "God blesses you when people mock you and persecute you and lie about you and say all sorts of evil things against you because you are my followers. Be happy about it! Be very glad! For a great reward awaits you in heaven. And remember, the ancient prophets were persecuted in the same way."
My goal isn't to argue with anyone or force my beliefs on others. I simply want to remain faithful to what I believe and to share the hope I have found in Jesus Christ, while treating others with love and respect.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:14 pm to Champagne
quote:And yet you jump right in the big middle of everyone of them. There is no harm in debating issues that aren't particularly politics but we are a certain group(s) of people and not really homogenous and we discuss all sorts of things. Religion or theology might make up one in a couple of hundred threads. It's going to be OK. If it look religious, you are free not to click on it. No big deal.
I agree that topics that center on Theology do not belong on Tigerdroppings Political Talk.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:17 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:21 pm to Thracken13
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how about Christians not persecuting other religions because their beliefs aren't the same? goes both ways
I hope that never happens.
But I am curious how Christians are truly persecuting other non-Christians? Not saying it can't happen but enlighten me here please.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:23 pm to LSUbest
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It wasn't me doing the persecuting was it?
Dunno, just saw a thread where someone was bashing Catholics. I'll be honest, I've said things that were not nice as well and I want to stop doing that.
So, no judgment from me brother
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:25 pm to theballguy
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I'll be honest, I've said things that were not nice as well and I want to stop doing that
God corrects me often, I know that I need to do better.
It's my thorn.
I will and do apologize if I personally have offended anyone, but I cannot apologize for the gospel.
This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:32 pm to theballguy
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But I am curious how Christians are truly persecuting other non-Christians? Not saying it can't happen but enlighten me here please.
In the exact same way that you're alleging here that Christians are "persecuting" other Christians. Obviously.
What kind of ridiculous question is this?
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:37 pm to FooManChoo
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It does if you're going to claim you aren't being antagonistic to Christians.
It's not my job to protect your sensibilities. If you don't recognize the fact that prayer is an attempt at magic, that is on you. Me pointing it out is not being antagonistic. You sound like you need a safe space. And this ain't it.
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:42 pm to CrystalPreserves
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Imagine no religion. All the people living life in peace. Nothing to kill or die for. You may say I’m a dreamer. But i’m not the only one.
Your socialist diatribe is unimpressive
Posted on 7/3/26 at 12:50 pm to BoarEd
quote:I don't need you to protect my sensibilities. I'm calling you out on what I perceive to be a deception on your part.
It's not my job to protect your sensibilities
quote:As I said, Christianity does not teach that prayer is a form of magic, nor do we recognize anything about the Christian religion as "magic". I've expressly stated that it is not "magic", and that we do not hold to any form of magic, so for you to continue to call it "magic" is your own wording, now in spite of correction, so it can only be understood as being said for a condescending and contentious purpose.
If you don't recognize the fact that prayer is an attempt at magic, that is on you.
quote:I can tell you are trying to wriggle out of this by not conceding you were trying to belittle Christians with your word choice and are now just doubling down to save face, but it's not working.
Me pointing it out is not being antagonistic.
quote:I don't need a safe space at all. I'm happy to call people out on their lies and I'm not afraid of engaging them in their futile responses.
You sound like you need a safe space. And this ain't it.
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