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re: Can Those Of You Who Advocate Tariffs...
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:56 pm to wackatimesthree
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:56 pm to wackatimesthree
Guess what?
We tell tarifflamd to frick off and americafirst company hires 2000 workers in the USA and produces the goods for almost the same original proce
We tell tarifflamd to frick off and americafirst company hires 2000 workers in the USA and produces the goods for almost the same original proce
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:24 pm to JimEverett
There is another difference.
Tariffs may or may not be about revenue. They could be about diplomatic influence and the money is just a side effect.
Tariffs may or may not be about revenue. They could be about diplomatic influence and the money is just a side effect.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:32 pm to wackatimesthree
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You know why? Because I've asked probably 20 different posters to tell me which tariffs the American taxpayer pays over various threads and no one ever answers the question.
Then there is no need to get rhetorical and ask questions that you already know. Just come out and say your thing and stop giving people mental exercises on questions that you really don’t even care to ask in the first place just go spew.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:36 pm to wackatimesthree
If there are high tariffs on our goods it makes our goods less profitable and less competitive in the market of that country the high tariffs are in.
When you couple those high tariffs on our goods and special treatment to goods coming from china, china now can undercut all of your small businesses. Because not only can they make it cheaper than you can, they can actually ship it cheaper too.
We all lose.
When you couple those high tariffs on our goods and special treatment to goods coming from china, china now can undercut all of your small businesses. Because not only can they make it cheaper than you can, they can actually ship it cheaper too.
We all lose.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:37 pm to wackatimesthree
Were you alive between 2016-2020?
If so, did you know that Donald Trump was the actual President during this timeframe and he slapped hundreds of tariffs to other countries around the world and we actually had the lowest inflation in the past 40 years? In fact, America was making so much money off all of the tariffs that the Democrats would not even remove them because the tariffs were bringing in so much money.
Were you alive during any of Trump's first term? Were you in some sort of coma or did you leave the country during that time?
If so, did you know that Donald Trump was the actual President during this timeframe and he slapped hundreds of tariffs to other countries around the world and we actually had the lowest inflation in the past 40 years? In fact, America was making so much money off all of the tariffs that the Democrats would not even remove them because the tariffs were bringing in so much money.
Were you alive during any of Trump's first term? Were you in some sort of coma or did you leave the country during that time?
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:42 pm to wackatimesthree
Grok would like everyone to know that the OP is retarded:
When in doubt, remember - Trump specifically talked about the creation of an EXTERNAL Revenue Service to handle all of the money coming in.
When in doubt, remember - Trump specifically talked about the creation of an EXTERNAL Revenue Service to handle all of the money coming in.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:45 pm to VoxDawg
quote:
Grok would like everyone to know that the OP is retarded:
Grok said exactly what the OP said. The importer pays the tax, then passes along some percentage between 0 and 100 to the customer buying the product. That's a combination of B and C in the OP.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:49 pm to Flats
On exports, yes. I've never heard a single person argue against the tariffs because they thought that US taxpayers would be on the hook for them.
For imports, the money in our case ends up in the US Treasury.
For imports, the money in our case ends up in the US Treasury.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:49 pm to wackatimesthree
A tariff doesn't mean the price of the foreign product is more expensive. It could mean that wholesalers in the U.S. just won't buy any of it because it's cheaper to buy the American version.
New Iberia produces sugar cane. Countries near the equator can produce 2 crops instead of one due to the longer growing season and cheaper labor. So, how can La. sugar make a profit? The tariffs on foreign sugar convince the sugar markets of the U.S. to buy La. cane sugar.
Now, what would happen if the U.S. cut a deal with a S. American country: 'Hey, we'll go along with your policy re: 'x,y,z' if you get rid of the sugar tariff so we can sell to America.' In that case the New Iberia farmers would simply switch to another crop. Everything grows in that soil and they have plan B always ready for a new crop.
New Iberia produces sugar cane. Countries near the equator can produce 2 crops instead of one due to the longer growing season and cheaper labor. So, how can La. sugar make a profit? The tariffs on foreign sugar convince the sugar markets of the U.S. to buy La. cane sugar.
Now, what would happen if the U.S. cut a deal with a S. American country: 'Hey, we'll go along with your policy re: 'x,y,z' if you get rid of the sugar tariff so we can sell to America.' In that case the New Iberia farmers would simply switch to another crop. Everything grows in that soil and they have plan B always ready for a new crop.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:49 pm to wackatimesthree
I'm normally against tariffs because they are not free trade
but if someone is going to tariff us...frick them, tariff them back. This goes for Europe and Canada
if they don't to play by the same rules environmental wise or are stealing designs and all the R&D and committing internet crimes and slave wages due to communism like China....frick them...tariff the frick out of them
if they don't want to stop narco terrorist at our border, stop droves of their poorest and least educated from coming over....frick them...tariff the frick out of them...looking at you Mexico and rest of South America
if they want to wage a holy war on Christians or whites like most of the ME and Africa....frick them, tariff the frick out of them
here is the deal...we hold all the cards...not them.
and I'm tired of them bitching because we don't want to pay for all their shite and prop them up...frick all those pussy mother frickers.
but if someone is going to tariff us...frick them, tariff them back. This goes for Europe and Canada
if they don't to play by the same rules environmental wise or are stealing designs and all the R&D and committing internet crimes and slave wages due to communism like China....frick them...tariff the frick out of them
if they don't want to stop narco terrorist at our border, stop droves of their poorest and least educated from coming over....frick them...tariff the frick out of them...looking at you Mexico and rest of South America
if they want to wage a holy war on Christians or whites like most of the ME and Africa....frick them, tariff the frick out of them
here is the deal...we hold all the cards...not them.
and I'm tired of them bitching because we don't want to pay for all their shite and prop them up...frick all those pussy mother frickers.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:50 pm to wackatimesthree
Tariffs need to be reciprocating
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:58 pm to wackatimesthree
Nobody reads your bullshite!
Go educate yourself you ignorant moron
Go educate yourself you ignorant moron
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:07 pm to wackatimesthree
Tariffs are not about the money. Tariffland is protecting their industry. You tariff what you want less of.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:11 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:Very simply, sans tariffs, a trade deficit represents uncaptured tax revenue. At the same time, a large economy running a significant trade deficit mitigates economic risk of retaliation. So it becomes an issue of collecting uncaptured tax revenue.
wackatimesthree
Where tarifs encourage onshoring, domestic corporate tax and worker income tax revenue increases. The same holds for increased domestic production as negotiations drive international barriers down.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:16 pm to wackatimesthree
You've convinced yourself, now you must convince others? Trump is attempting to restart manufacturing, industry and jobs in the US. If tariffs make imported products higher and they so happen to be the same as American products while US business get back to previous productivity, so be it. American companies can decline to import goods and follow Canada's lead where they refuse to sell American liquor there much less raise the price to meet the tariff. Trump is thinking long term financial and political ramifications. You're thinking with your wallet and next month's check.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:50 pm to wackatimesthree
You dont understand tariffs. At All
1) tariffs benefit the US economy
2) tariffs lessen the tax burden on its citizens
Lets say you buy a phone from China. It costs $900. With 100% tariff that goes to $1800. Youre absolutely going to look for an alternative. An American start-up pops up and makes a similar phone for $1200. You snap that baby right up
a) All $1200 of that stays and circulates within the US. So now theres more money floating around for gas, food, groceries, entertainment, etc. That $1200 now lowers the cost for many other items, because it allows for more supply, and more cash, less credit
b) With the China phone $900 goes to the Treasury, right off the bat. With DOGE, we see that a chunk of that heads overseas. Also, much of the original $900 heads to China. The lack of dollars available in the US makes every single good or service more expensive.
Thats why the money printer runs 24/7. Too much of our money is sent to and circulates in other economies. Not ours. So it is an actual way to punish the ignorant consumers for destroying their own economy
And guess what? They got you begging to undermine your own economy. Great job.
quote:
In the United States, tariffs are collected by Customs and Border Protection agent. That money goes into the Treasury
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Yang Zhou, an economist at Shanghai’s Fudan University, concluded in a study that Trump’s tariffs on Chinese goods inflicted more than three times as much damage to the Chinese economy as they did to the U.S. economy.
1) tariffs benefit the US economy
2) tariffs lessen the tax burden on its citizens
Lets say you buy a phone from China. It costs $900. With 100% tariff that goes to $1800. Youre absolutely going to look for an alternative. An American start-up pops up and makes a similar phone for $1200. You snap that baby right up
a) All $1200 of that stays and circulates within the US. So now theres more money floating around for gas, food, groceries, entertainment, etc. That $1200 now lowers the cost for many other items, because it allows for more supply, and more cash, less credit
b) With the China phone $900 goes to the Treasury, right off the bat. With DOGE, we see that a chunk of that heads overseas. Also, much of the original $900 heads to China. The lack of dollars available in the US makes every single good or service more expensive.
Thats why the money printer runs 24/7. Too much of our money is sent to and circulates in other economies. Not ours. So it is an actual way to punish the ignorant consumers for destroying their own economy
And guess what? They got you begging to undermine your own economy. Great job.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:17 pm to dstone12
China tariffs on U.S. EVs are 15%.
US tariffs on China EVs are 100%
US tariffs on China EVs are 100%
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:31 pm to wackatimesthree
TL;DR.....
We, the American people are rewarded with lower taxes on our income which = mo money in our pockets as a result of the tariffs.
We, the American people are rewarded with lower taxes on our income which = mo money in our pockets as a result of the tariffs.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:39 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:The American taxpayer pays for any tariffs we impose which are not compensated for by the exporting country, entity, or both. But in the instance of a $37T national debt, we also pay for nontariffed materials. Therein lies the rub. There's no free lunch.
Because I've asked probably 20 different posters to tell me which tariffs the American taxpayer pays over various threads and no one ever answers the question.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:40 pm to wackatimesthree
My 02c
I don’t believe any of these tarif enacted actions are permanent and I am not a degreed economist ( I did pass statistics barely in community college).
I have to trust in the program and find faith in this metric in leveling out the platform.
I do and will continue to do so.
This administration is doing wonders and shaking the bag up getting things back on a level playing field since Ford & Carter started all this crap.
Eggs are in the store and everyone can afford stop acting like this is the Castro sugar embargo. Strategic oil reserves are almost back where we need them to be.
Let’s see where all this lands in a year and judge the critical path matrix laid out.
That is all…
I don’t believe any of these tarif enacted actions are permanent and I am not a degreed economist ( I did pass statistics barely in community college).
I have to trust in the program and find faith in this metric in leveling out the platform.
I do and will continue to do so.
This administration is doing wonders and shaking the bag up getting things back on a level playing field since Ford & Carter started all this crap.
Eggs are in the store and everyone can afford stop acting like this is the Castro sugar embargo. Strategic oil reserves are almost back where we need them to be.
Let’s see where all this lands in a year and judge the critical path matrix laid out.
That is all…
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