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re: Can The Supreme Court Intervene After Trump’s Conviction? Legal Experts Say Yes.

Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
2116 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:46 pm to
Pretty sure that every single democrat who is a little leery of voting to expand (and therefor stack) the Supreme Court would quickly reverse their stance if that happened.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:47 pm to
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he has no recourse despite ALL of the myriad ways this judge violated his civil right?

the USSC can only take up legitimate constitutional issues.

The NY courts have the authority to rule on all procedural issues (assuming no Constitutional issues exist with NY criminal procedure)

But the issue is that outside of basically one scenario, even if the USSC rules in Trump's favor, the case doesn't go away. It gets sent back to NY and they have to do the whole trial over again (without the offending rulings/legal issues that were deemed to violate his rights).
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21292 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:10 pm to
Can they? Yes, but I don’t think they will.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15918 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:23 pm to
This is not so much about Trump as it's about election interference and Secondly they have to rule on immunity. Every former and future president is at risk if this case stands
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:30 pm to
Immunity would not apply unless USSC gives absolute immunity, which is unlikely
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
1145 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:44 pm to
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Legal Experts Say Yes


You mean Republican legal experts, don’t you?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158004 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:46 pm to
Born4cocks with the zinger.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15918 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:11 pm to
And what about election interference?
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
5600 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:21 pm to
I think if they were to imprison Trump for these “felonies” they would step in. Outside of something like that I doubt they touch it.
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:36 pm to
If these are the same legal experts that sold you on the notion that the election was stolen, I don’t think this will end how you think it will.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:38 pm to
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I don’t think
... just leave it at that.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26542 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:40 pm to
The SC should curb stomp this Stalinist show trial and all of its perps.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11397 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:25 am to
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But that is a bit misleading in that it suggests they could rule Trump's treatment to be unconstitutional. The Supreme Court doesn't have that power. They can rule the law Trump was convicted of as unconstitutional. They can rule that a former president can not be tried for crimes committed while they were not president. But they can't rule on his specific treatment in the case.


Miranda v Arizona was about the defendants treatment. They did not rule he was arrested using an unconstitutional law, and he was not a president. Miranda's rights were violated before court, so you could make that distinction, but it would not make sense to think your constitutional rights end when you step inside a courtroom.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:42 am to
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SFP will argue for a million fricking years that everyone on earth is wrong and he is right just like he always does


This is the most succinct yet thorough analysis of a poster in TD history.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47029 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 12:58 am to
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Text this to SFP Alvin.


This is stupid. SFP said the Supreme Court could intervene if they wanted to.

Don't make me defend him.

In reality, the Supreme Court will not unless it gets to the point of significantly impacting Trump's ability to run for president which could be seen as a harbinger for future campaign tactics that impact elections
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 1:01 am
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8776 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 1:33 am to
If Trump's constitutional rights were violated which they were numerous times, Trump can petition directly to the Supreme Court. What is laughable is that the felony charges required a conspiracy to hide another crime. They never said what that crime was or charged him with one. I would love to see that Idiot prosecutor before the Supreme Court trying to justify that crap show. If I was Trump, the moment the charges were dismissed I would sue the State of New York for 200 million.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 4:13 am to
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The Supreme Court doesn't have that power.


quote:

But they can't rule on his specific treatment in the case.



quote:

But if it was, the US Supreme court cannot rule on that



Who do you think is the final arbiter on what the Supreme Court can and cannot do?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 4:15 am to
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Doesn’t he have assburgers?



He has symptoms of the rarer form - assweiners.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26708 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 5:12 am to
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declaring the law to be unconstitutional.

What law? The only law Trump supposedly broke, was a misdemeanor that was past Statute of Limitations….
The Supreme Court can certainly rule that Trumps constitutional rights were violated by this DA and judge. Trump has a constitutional right to know what crime he is accused of committing and a right to defend himself. He was not given those rights. Based on the judges instructions and stupid metaphor, one of the jurors coulda “thought” he broke the law by jaywalking the morning one of the checks were mailed and that would mean Trumps guilty of a felony
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 5:14 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477249 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 7:01 am to
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And what about election interference?

What about it? Trump wasn't charged with this.
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